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Xev
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Posted - 02/07/2002 :  19:01:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
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Well, then I stand corrected. But I would ask why they call themselves "anti-globalization?" Do they call themselves "anti-free trade" as well? Why?


Not to perpetuate a sterotype, but one had no idea what she was talking about, the other was hardly anti-free trade. I did not ask though.

*Sigh* There is truth in what has been said about the 'hipness' of the anti-WTO (better label?) attracting people. But, that is true of most of the ideologys that are popular today.

And that is why I am glad to have found you nice people!

Right, back on subject:

I will stop calling them anti-globalization, would 'anti-WTO' be better?

Xev -Ad astra!- Bellringer
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Gorgo
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Posted - 02/08/2002 :  04:36:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Well, I'd venture to guess that there are a lot of people that don't know much about what they're talking about regardless of political affiliation. I think there are at least the same percentage of clueless Republicans and Democrats as there are clueless left-wing radicals. Doing something for "hipness" is not really any different than being a Republican because your Daddy was, or because you're pissed off at the "evil axis."

The people I have contact with that are against NAFTA are not against NAFTA because they're against free trade. If you saw Bill Moyer's report on just Chapter 11 of NAFTA, you saw that NAFTA is not about free trade and certainly not about democracy. The problem with these programs is that they are about free trade for a few.

"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn
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Xev
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Posted - 02/08/2002 :  08:51:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
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Well, I'd venture to guess that there are a lot of people that don't know much about what they're talking about regardless of political affiliation. I think there are at least the same percentage of clueless Republicans and Democrats as there are clueless left-wing radicals. Doing something for "hipness" is not really any different than being a Republican because your Daddy was, or because you're pissed off at the "evil axis."


Absolutly Gorgo, and I'm sorry if I didn't make that absolutly clear:

Many people, especially my generation, choose political, even religious affiliation on the grounds that it is 'hip'. This applys to everyone from Charismatic Christians, to Wiccans, to Republicans to anti-WTO protesters. It annoys me to no end.

Back on subject, before I start ranting:
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The problem with these programs is that they are about free trade for a few.


While I do not understand the issue completly (economics makes my head hurt!), you have an excellent point.


Xev -Ad astra!- Bellringer
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Gorgo
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Posted - 02/08/2002 :  09:13:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message
Me too. I suspect that economics and politics are so complicated because they are largely a fraud perpetrated by them that's got against them that don't got.

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While I do not understand the issue completly (economics makes my head hurt!),



"Not one human life should be expended in this reckless violence called a war against terrorism." - Howard Zinn
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Xev
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Posted - 02/08/2002 :  10:23:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Xev an ICQ Message Send Xev a Private Message
Gorgo: Might be part of it. Of course, all human interactions are horridly confusing.

Xev -Ad astra!- Bellringer
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