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Slater
SFN Regular
USA
1668 Posts |
 Posted - 06/22/2001 : 11:11:59 [Permalink]
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I think people who drink are insecure and are so weak minded they can't face reality.
We have always spoken well of you.
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Bradley
Skeptic Friend
USA
147 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2001 : 15:43:43 [Permalink]
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It seems unfair to label all drinkers as insecure, weak-minded, and unable to face reality. I have abstained from alcohol since '84, yet I have no moralistic objections to drinking. For nine out of ten people, alcohol is a great recreational drug. I, unfortunately, am among the one in ten for whom one or two drinks invariably lead to three, four, or a dozen. It doesn't bother me to be around social drinkers per se; what does bother me is to be around drunken behavior and second-hand tobacco smoke. If I was going to cop a temperance league attitude, I would join the fundies.
"Too much doubt is better than too much credulity."
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Greg
Skeptic Friend
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - 06/22/2001 : 16:55:41 [Permalink]
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I, unfortunately, am among the one in ten for whom one or two drinks invariably lead to three, four, or a dozen.
I've got the same problem but just with beer so I avoid it. I do think however, the initial comment was meant as a joke.
Greg.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/23/2001 : 03:39:27 [Permalink]
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It seems unfair to label all drinkers as insecure, weak-minded, and unable to face reality. I have abstained from alcohol since '84, yet I have no moralistic objections to drinking
What do you mean moralistic objections?
If you are talking about what I said, I was stating a fact. One which I was taught in Health class years ago in high school. I think my teacher was right. He said there's no purpose for drinking. It doesn't taste good, so why do it. Just like smoking, it's social crutch. I have been to plenty of parties where people are drinking and smoking pot, whatever. I don't need to, I can have fun without aid. I have a supper brain. I can start a conversation without an excuse. I don't need drugs to have as good a time as anyone else. I even have a better time I remember what I do. Drinking is for people who want to forget and can't handle mental problems with their own intellect. It's not a moral judgement, it's my opinion and that of others as well. Drink all you want, doesn't bother me. I can laugh at you and you won't know it. LOL.
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sega
Skeptic Friend
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2001 : 14:52:09 [Permalink]
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Snake, Just a little question, whats a supper brain? Are you sure you don't drink?
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Bozola
Skeptic Friend
USA
166 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2001 : 15:07:39 [Permalink]
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I have a supper brain.
Aren't you afraid of being trephinated by some roving cannibal?
I not saying that I'm a cannibal, it's just a social thing, a crutch, you might say. Do you practice safe 'supper brain'; I mean have you been certified by the USFDA as "100% Kuru-free"?
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
1383 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2001 : 15:25:58 [Permalink]
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Snake, what do you mean when you say that alcohol doesn't taste good? Sitting out on our deck with a glass of a New Zealand Pinot Noir and enjoying our fantastic views is one of life's simplest and most enjoyable pleasures.
You could always argue that there's non-alcohol wine to be consumed instead. Now THAT tastes bad (just like non-alcohol beer does - YUCK (has there ever been an attempt at making non-alcohol Vodka?(would that be Absolut proof?))).
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Lisa
SFN Regular
USA
1223 Posts |
Posted - 06/25/2001 : 15:39:55 [Permalink]
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You could always argue that there's non-alcohol wine to be consumed instead. Now THAT tastes bad (just like non-alcohol beer does - YUCK (has there ever been an attempt at making non-alcohol Vodka?(would that be Absolut proof?))).
Actually, the non-alcoholic wine isn't too bad, as long as you're not expecting it to taste like wine. The BX carried the non-alcoholic wine when I was over in Saudi. After a nice workout is 110F heat, the stuff tasted really good. I felt like my toenails we re-hydrating. Didn't try the non-beer though, even I'll only go so far.
Still, it was nice to get back home where I had a choice.
Lisa
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2001 : 14:53:27 [Permalink]
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Snake, not everyone drinks until they are falling down drunk, nor are they always obnoxious and stupid. Some drinks taste quite good, and have a drink or two induces very pleasant feelings, without any blackouts or lost memories. Nor do the majority of drinkers drink to 'escape' from reality.
You have a very bad stereotype going, and you don't seem to mind that you are being very rude in your generalizations. That's just my opinion and the opinion of others, not a moral judgement. 
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Greg
Skeptic Friend
USA
281 Posts |
Posted - 06/26/2001 : 18:34:10 [Permalink]
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You have a very bad stereotype going, and you don't seem to mind that you are being very rude in your generalizations.
Not to mention very un-skeptical.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2001 : 02:29:15 [Permalink]
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Snake, not everyone drinks until they are falling down drunk, nor are they always obnoxious and stupid. Some drinks taste quite good, and have a drink or two induces very pleasant feelings, without any blackouts or lost memories. Nor do the majority of drinkers drink to 'escape' from reality.
You are entitled to your opinion.
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You have a very bad stereotype going, and you don't seem to mind that you are being very rude in your generalizations. That's just my opinion and the opinion of others, not a moral judgement.
I live with an alcoholic and you're right, he doesn't drink a lot. One sip and his personality changes . It's frustrating to deal with him. But he is not falling down drunk either, just an ass.
How would a drinker know if I'm being rude when their brain is not functioning on all cylinders anyway? If you perceive something as rude, that's your problem.
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sega
Skeptic Friend
USA
73 Posts |
Posted - 06/29/2001 : 14:57:18 [Permalink]
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Snake, not everyone drinks until they are falling down drunk, nor are they always obnoxious and stupid. Some drinks taste quite good, and have a drink or two induces very pleasant feelings, without any blackouts or lost memories. Nor do the majority of drinkers drink to 'escape' from reality.
You are entitled to your opinion.
Snake, its not an opinion, its a fact, because it does not generalize and use the words "all" or "Everyone".
I grew up with an alcoholic father, and I think I know the difference between abuse and use. My experiences or yours do not give us the right to lump everyone into the same boat.
Also, if you are living with someone who can't control their booze, and they still drink, change it. Life is too short to fill it with misery.
Now its friday, and I am going to go have a few cold ones. Cold tasty ones. Cold tasty ones that won't affect my judgement. Heck, I'm going to drink, and not get drunk. What a model of self control I am.
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Snake
SFN Addict
USA
2511 Posts |
Posted - 06/30/2001 : 02:17:20 [Permalink]
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Snake, what do you mean when you say that alcohol doesn't taste good? Sitting out on our deck with a glass of a New Zealand Pinot Noir and enjoying our fantastic views is one of life's simplest and most enjoyable pleasures.
You could always argue that there's non-alcohol wine to be consumed instead. Now THAT tastes bad (just like non-alcohol beer does - YUCK (has there ever been an attempt at making non-alcohol Vodka?(would that be Absolut proof?))).
Up, up and away!!!
Hi Hawks,
I don't know what New Zealand Pinot Noir is. but why drink non-alcholic wine if one doesn't like wine in the 1st place? Wouldn't it taste the same, like rotten grapes. I perfer REAL grape juice. Spoiled food doesn't appeal to me, sorry. 
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Randy
SFN Regular
USA
1990 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2001 : 09:23:40 [Permalink]
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A philosophy professor stood before his class and had some items in front of
him. When the class began, he silently picked up an institutional-sized,
empty mayonnaise jar and proceeded to fill it with rocks of about 2" in
diameter.
He then asked the students if the jar was full?
They agreed that it was.
So the professor then picked up a box of pebbles and poured them into the
jar. He shook the jar lightly. The pebbles, of course, rolled into the open
areas between the rocks. He then asked the students again if the jar was
full. They agreed it was. The students laughed.
The professor picked up a box of sand and poured it into the jar. Of course,
the sand filled up everything else.
"Now," said the professor, "I want you to recognize that this is your life.
The rocks are the important things -- your family, your partner, your
health, your children -- things that if everything else was lost and only
they remained, your life would still be full.
"The pebbles are the other things that matter like your job, your house,
your car. The sand is everything else, the small stuff. If you put the sand
into the jar first, there is no room for the pebbles or the rocks. The same
goes for your life...
"If you spend all your time and energy on the small stuff, you will never
have room for the things that are important to you. Pay attention to the
things that are critical to your happiness. Play with your children. Take
time to get medical checkups. Take your partner out dancing. There will
always be time to go to work, clean the house, give a dinner party and fix
the disposal. Take care of the rocks first -- the things that really matter.
Set your priorities. The rest is just sand."
But then...
A student then took the jar which the other students and the professor
agreed was full, and proceeded to pour in a glass of beer. Of course the
beer filled the remaining spaces within the jar making the jar truly full.
The moral of this tale is: No matter how full your life is, there is always
room for BEER!
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Today's Borrowed Thought:
"Men will not be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails
of the last priest."
-Denis Diderot, "Dithyrambe sur la fete de rois"
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Tokyodreamer
SFN Regular
USA
1447 Posts |
Posted - 07/03/2001 : 10:09:31 [Permalink]
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LOL! Very good!
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