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@tomic
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Posted - 03/29/2002 :  14:13:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit @tomic's Homepage Send @tomic a Private Message
I think it's irresponsible regardless of the resources to support them. While it may be fine from an individuals point of view, if everyone did this it would be disasterous as many part of the world now understand.

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Slater
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Posted - 03/29/2002 :  19:26:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Slater a Private Message
Osama bin Laden has 53 brothers and sisters.
Is he Catholic? Mom must be tired.

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ronnywhite
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Posted - 03/29/2002 :  21:32:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ronnywhite a Private Message
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You don't think that the people around her and her environment actually encouraged and aggravated her delusions?



I agree that religion played a detrimental role in the Yates murders, and the particular beliefs of those involved had mutated into a pretty malignant strain, but saner people might have ended up feeding the hungry from the same starting point (?) I think there was likely both serious mental illness AND fanatic religion involved. For lack of the former, I doubt such terrible events would have transpired (and these people may never have had any interest in fanatic religion to begin with.) For lack of the latter, their mental illness would have likely resulted in problems of some kind anyway (although probably not multiple homicides.) Admittedly, this is speculation (in the unlikely event I ever start to feel my opinions are "The Truth," I'll be sure to make it official and declare tax exempt status.)

RE Wolfgang's mention of communal reinforcement's role, ideas that are valid usually seem to set pretty well on their own merits without need for that. Without a strong leader and congregation to regularly restate The Word, it would probably start to lose credibility in the minds of many over time. There's a lot of baloney to "spirituality" and I remain atheist, but I think my previous posts were far too critical of religion.
What's appropriate for indoctrination of youth is a fuzzy area, but putting aside the violence and other craziness of a minority, for many adults it has it's place (even though it's not for me.) To address monetary exploitation of membership, it's really just a "social profession" and our entire society seems to have become less "business ethical," so some of that's to be expected. Not all theologians financially screw their congregations (although the exceptions are disgusting, particularly the "bottom feeders.")

RE too many kids, I think it's irresponsible, but everyone seems to have their own take on that. I saw a Pat Buchanon interview the other day- he thinks those of European ancestory in the US should have lots of kids- that's his take. I doubt Osama's would impress me much more.




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