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Piltdown
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Posted - 03/18/2002 :  01:33:19  Show Profile  Send Piltdown an AOL message  Send Piltdown a Yahoo! Message Send Piltdown a Private Message
Ken Ham's notorious "Answers in Genesis" Ministries is behind a 14 million project to build a creationist theme park in Kentucky: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2002/03/10/wmus10.xml&sSheet=/news/2002/03/10/ixworld.html
According to Ham,
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"This is a cultural war," he said. "They need to know we're coming. We're not doing this to say: 'Here's the evidence for and against, now you decide.' We admit our bias right from the start.




Abducting UFOs and conspiring against conspiracy theorists since 1980.

Edited by - Piltdown on 03/18/2002 01:34:16

James
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Posted - 03/18/2002 :  09:01:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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Ken Ham's notorious "Answers in Genesis" Ministries is behind a 14 million project to build a creationist theme park in Kentucky: Creation-Land
According to Ham,
quote:
"This is a cultural war," he said. "They need to know we're coming. We're not doing this to say: 'Here's the evidence for and against, now you decide.' We admit our bias right from the start.



Well, it's nice to know he admits it right from the start. *he says as he wonders where his grandpa's rifle is...*

From the article:

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The backers of the $14 million (£10 million) Creation Museum and Family Centre, which is to open in 2004 close to the Ohio River in Kentucky,[I thought the Ohio River was polluted enough. ] boast that the structure will act as an antidote to the "brainwashing" taught in science museums worldwide.


I don't think there's enough snake venom in the world for this.

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Real fossils will be used to demonstrate how scientific methods such as carbon dating can be wildly inaccurate...

Yeah, it can be. If you don't know WTH you're doing. These guys would be a case in point.
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...and life-sized dinosaurs will illustrate the belief that they lived alongside Adam and Eve in a period before the Fall, when animals, man and dinosaurs cohabited, free from violence.

Oh, yeah. Politics hadn't been invented yet.

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Ken Ham, whose Answers in Genesis ministry is behind the project, said that the museum was a long overdue offensive against the scientific establishment.

"This is a cultural war," he said.


Great. Where can I sign up to send you into the sun?

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"The Bible is not a science textbook. But where it touches on science, we can trust it. This is the truth."

Oh, so if a placemat has something scientific on it, we can trust it, even if it's totally wrong? And scientists have no idea what their doing? Right.

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A recent survey in the magazine Scientific American reported that 45 per cent of Americans believe that God created life some time in the past 10,000 years, despite the vast majority of scientists maintaining that life in its simplest form first appeared 3.9 billion years ago and has been evolving ever since.

Shit. Are we that dumb?

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Eugenie Scott, the director of the National Centre for Science Education, said that the new creationist museum was a sermon disguised as scientific study intended to hoodwink the public. "The authoritarian presentation of this information is likely to confuse people into thinking that these are scientifically valid views," she said.

Nevermind. She answered my question.

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"Science is not a democratic process. Once an idea is proved wrong, you don't continue to present it. The idea that everything on Earth appeared all at once 10,000 years ago has been disproved."

Hell, it was disproved the second it was proposed.

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To the outrage of the state's scientific community, Ohio is proposing a similar initiative to forbid teaching of scientific evolution. Similar propositions are also to be debated soon in New York State and Massachusetts.

What is so wrong with making kids think for once in their lifetimes?

And we don't hear about this in America why?

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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The Rat
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Posted - 03/19/2002 :  20:59:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message
Theme park, eh?

Well let's see now...

They claim an intelligent designer for our universe, our world, and ourselves.

Our universe won't last forever, our world will disappear when our sun goes nova, and our bodies go decrepit by the time most of reach our late forties ('speak for yourself!', I hear someone mutter).

I hope their roller coasters are designed by someone a hell of a lot more intelligent than their god.

Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
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Piltdown
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Posted - 03/25/2002 :  12:56:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Piltdown an AOL message  Send Piltdown a Yahoo! Message Send Piltdown a Private Message
Ham's competitor, Kent Hovind, already has a more modest theme park near Pensacola, Dinosaur Adventure Land. The place has its own website: http://www.dinosauradverntureland.com

Programs include a week-long "Home School Science Class".

Authority has every reason to fear the skeptic, for authority can rarely survive in the face of doubt.
-Robert Lindner


Edited by - Piltdown on 03/25/2002 13:23:04
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PhDreamer
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Posted - 03/25/2002 :  14:14:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit PhDreamer's Homepage Send PhDreamer a Private Message
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Ham's competitor, Kent Hovind, already has a more modest theme park near Pensacola, Dinosaur Adventure Land. The place has its own website: http://www.dinosauradverntureland.com

Programs include a week-long "Home School Science Class".
[/quote]

I swear I'm gonna go visit one of these days...


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transsexual
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Posted - 03/25/2002 :  14:35:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send transsexual a Yahoo! Message Send transsexual a Private Message
Maybe I should open a concession stand there selling Noah boats and two of all of the animals. Of course not all of the animals would fit on the boat.LOL

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Wolfgang_faust
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  08:38:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Wolfgang_faust's Homepage  Send Wolfgang_faust a Yahoo! Message Send Wolfgang_faust a Private Message
This is a place I would love to see. They are going to use an amusement park to try to prove creationism. Well, it would definitly be amusing.

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jec96
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  09:05:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jec96 a Private Message
Just think though..the money you would save on concession stand food....loaves and fishes multiplying, water into wine...The rides could be "The walk on the water", Raise the Dead"...

-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  09:53:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
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Just think though..the money you would save on concession stand food....loaves and fishes multiplying, water into wine...The rides could be "The walk on the water", Raise the Dead"...

-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle




Don''t forget "Stone the Sinner"




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dimossi
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:00:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit dimossi's Homepage  Send dimossi an AOL message Send dimossi a Private Message
I guess it is some sort of Fundie Fashion Statement to build these creationist theme parks right now, because here is another one:

Messiahville -
http://www.bouldernews.com/news/local/06ames.shtml

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away." [Philip K. Dick, science-fiction author]
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James
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:12:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
Prime.

Well, I guess that proves the old saying, "Monkey see, monkey do."

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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Mespo_man
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:19:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mespo_man a Private Message
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Don''''t forget "Stone the Sinner"



How about "Part the Waters"? You''re strapped into a replica of an Egyptian war chariot and you have to "tag" the fleeing Israelites before the waters crash in on you. Great fun on a hot summer day.

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jec96
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:28:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send jec96 a Private Message
We had better stop, we could be giving the builders ideas...Then are screen names would be on a plaque at the gate, showing creative design credits....

-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
Aristotle
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James
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  11:38:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send James a Yahoo! Message Send James a Private Message
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We had better stop, we could be giving the builders ideas...Then are screen names would be on a plaque at the gate, showing creative design credits....


Well, we could sue for defamation of character...

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your common sense." -Buddha
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Trish
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  12:08:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message
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I guess it is some sort of Fundie Fashion Statement to build these creationist theme parks right now, because here is another one:

Messiahville -
http://www.bouldernews.com/news/local/06ames.shtml

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn''t go away." [Philip K. Dick, science-fiction author]


AAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH! That''s my backyard!

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...no one has ever found a 4.5 billion year old stone artifact (at the right geological stratum) with the words "Made by God."
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Wolfgang_faust
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Posted - 04/10/2002 :  12:25:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Wolfgang_faust's Homepage  Send Wolfgang_faust a Yahoo! Message Send Wolfgang_faust a Private Message
That will not be to far from me or my brother who lives in Denver also. If it is ever finished I will have to check it out and give a report.


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