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marfknox
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Posted - 08/12/2007 :  09:21:58  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is neither really religion nor pseudo-science, so I'm just putting it in general skepticism.

http://www.sploid.com/news/2006/04/battling_the_je.php

Nye was in town to participate in McLennan Community College's Distinguished Lecture Series. He gave two lectures on such unfunny and adult topics as global warming, Mars exploration, and energy consumption.

But nothing got people as riled as when he brought up Genesis 1:16, which reads: "God made two great lights -- the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars."

The lesser light, he pointed out, is not a light at all, but only a reflector.

At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury.
A lot of bloggers have been writing about this incident, such as Sploid here, but I do think the infuriated audience members' are being a wee bit mis-characterized. Sploid's first line in this blog entry is: "Bill Nye, the harmless children's edu-tainer known as "The Science Guy," managed to offend a select group of idiot adults in Waco when he suggested that the moon does not emit light." While technically true, he's implying that the audience was angry because they think the moon emits light. In fact, most of the audience members were angry because they interpret that Biblical passage as not requiring that the moon actual emit light itself, but merely that it serves as a light, which it does. They were angry that Nye decided to quote the Bible and then give an example of science debunking a Biblical error.

That said, I think the audience seriously over-reacted, and there is a lot of nutty shit being written by Christian conservatives on this matter, such as that Nye "hates God" and wants to drag everyone else to hell with him.


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Edited by - marfknox on 08/12/2007 09:30:30

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Posted - 08/12/2007 :  18:15:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Go get 'em Bill! It's a shame that setting people straight is thought of as wrong.

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Dude
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Posted - 08/12/2007 :  20:24:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its TX. What do you expect?


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recurve boy
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  05:30:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send recurve boy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While technically true, he's implying that the audience was angry because they think the moon emits light. In fact, most of the audience members were angry because they interpret that Biblical passage as not requiring that the moon actual emit light itself, but merely that it serves as a light, which it does. They were angry that Nye decided to quote the Bible and then give an example of science debunking a Biblical error.


At the end sploid writes:
At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children


Looks like they got it right?
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filthy
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  06:21:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeh, why else would the Smithsonian keep the moon rocks locked away? The light from them, at close range, is blinding!
At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children
Oh my gawd, they're reproducing! The already murky shallows of the gene pool has become befouled with progressive idjitcy!




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HalfMooner
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  07:06:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

Yeh, why else would the Smithsonian keep the moon rocks locked away? The light from them, at close range, is blinding!
At this point, several people in the audience stormed out in fury. One woman yelled "We believe in God!" and left with three children
Oh my gawd, they're reproducing! The already murky shallows of the gene pool has become befouled with progressive idjitcy!




No, worse yet! They took other people's children.


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Ricky
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Posted - 08/26/2007 :  08:25:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While technically true, he's implying that the audience was angry because they think the moon emits light. In fact, most of the audience members were angry because they interpret that Biblical passage as not requiring that the moon actual emit light itself, but merely that it serves as a light, which it does.


I would certainly like that to be true, and it does at least a little reasonable. But do you have someone saying this is how the audience felt? It seems to me that this is how you would have reacted if you were there and a Christian. But there are many Christians who follow the Bible so literally that they won't accept any idea that comes from outside of it. I wouldn't find it at all surprising that there are people out there (down there?) who think that the moon actually emits light.

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