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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  17:50:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
DaveW, it is then your admission, is it, that the information you gave on the groups "Flamingos" and "Cockatoos", wrt to the effect of diet on color phenotype, was not factual.

Can you tell where you pulled that information from, DaveW ?
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  18:10:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Too bad that the public education site BerkeleyEvolution101 is saying this;

The food they eat makes their phenotype white or pink.


Liars !!!! DaveW, take action against the publication !!! Rolling protests, maybe
Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 18:13:18
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  18:20:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
H Humbert,
Your seeming good-faith questioning prompts me to address this for you in this way:

Upon reading this sentence from Evolution101Berkeley site
The food they eat makes their phenotype white or pink.
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can you tell me in your own words, what that means to you, at face value, with the least interpretive stretches possible, no delving into mechanisms and molecules (as they are not mentioned) ... please perform a "straight read" and say then, just what the English prose means.


thanks.



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Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 19:23:10
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  18:33:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 18:37:36
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  19:29:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

DaveW, it is then your admission, is it, that the information you gave on the groups "Flamingos" and "Cockatoos", wrt to the effect of diet on color phenotype, was not factual.
Are there some white cockatoos that turn pink when fed a high-carotenoid diet?
Liars !!!! DaveW, take action against the publication !!!
What evidence do you have that the people behind BerkeleyEvolution101 are liars? Do you think they're lying when they say, "An organism's phenotype is all of its observable characteristics-which are influenced both by its genotype and by the environment"?
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
Where is your evidence that supports these accusations?

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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  19:33:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

DaveW, it is then your admission, is it, that the information you gave on the groups "Flamingos" and "Cockatoos", wrt to the effect of diet on color phenotype, was not factual.
Are there some white cockatoos that turn pink when fed a high-carotenoid diet?
DaveW.


I do not even know all the kinds of cockatoos ! The "cockatoos don't change" gig, is yours, not mine.

Is the information factual, to the best of your knowledge ?
I don't understand why you are afraid to say where you pulled that info from. Do you understand why you are afraid to say ?


mmm?
Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 19:42:02
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  19:36:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If there are any others who would like to interpret Berkeley101 site


The food they eat makes their phenotype white or pink.


Have at it



Cheers
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Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 19:53:24
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  19:52:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

I do not even know all the kinds of cockatoos ! The "cockatoos don't change" gig, is yours, not mine.
So then your question to me about whether I was lying about the cockatoos is based on nothing?
I don't understand why you are afraid to say where you pulled that info from. Do you understand why you are afraid to say ?
Where is your evidence that I'm "afraid" to say anything?
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
Where is the evidence you claimed to have that supports these accusations?

One could begin to think that you're afraid to say where you pulled those accusations from, and that your refusal to answer the questions is an admission that those accusations are not factual, couldn't one?

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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  19:56:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

I do not even know all the kinds of cockatoos ! The "cockatoos don't change" gig, is yours, not mine.
So then your question to me about whether I was lying about the cockatoos is based on nothing?
I ask if it is factual, Dave. That's a simple question.

So is "Where did you pull it from ?"

It'll be a lot easier if you just tell your readers if it is factual or not, Dave.


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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  20:00:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What evidence do you have that the people behind BerkeleyEvolution101 are liars?
Oh, you didn't catch that it was my poor attempt at humour. Pardon the facetiosity.



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Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 20:04:55
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  20:11:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
I ask: where is your evidence in support of these accusations, CRUX? It's a simple question.

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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  20:23:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
I ask: where is your evidence in support of these accusations, CRUX? It's a simple question.
in your forum and in internet archives.

now, are you still afraid to answer to the question I asked ?

Factual or not ?

Maybe some kind of signal, Dave. Tie a ribbon or something to say "no" or "yes"
Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 20:31:14
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  20:28:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
I ask: where is your evidence in support of these accusations, CRUX? It's a simple question.
in your forum and in internet archives.
Where in those places? Why are you afraid to answer previous questions about this alleged evidence?

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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  20:33:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
I ask: where is your evidence in support of these accusations, CRUX? It's a simple question.
in your forum and in internet archives.
Where in those places? Why are you afraid to answer previous questions about this alleged evidence?
I answered where it is.

I guess we can take it that you will be taking the 5th on that question for you, Dave.
In order to achieve resolution, would it help if I toned it down, and instead of saying you are afraid, say you are "reluctant" ? Is that less offensive to you, or more accurate ? Let me know.



OK. We can move on for more of that honest debate.

It's not like it's a lot of work for you to do. It's a matter of saying "yes" or "no".
Edited by - CRUX on 09/26/2011 20:53:35
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Posted - 09/26/2011 :  20:55:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
I ask: where is your evidence in support of these accusations, CRUX? It's a simple question.
in your forum and in internet archives.
Where in those places? Why are you afraid to answer previous questions about this alleged evidence?
I answered where it is.
And I asked two follow-up questions, so why do you refuse to answer them?
I guess we can take it that you will be taking the 5th on that question for you, Dave.
Since the answer doesn't really matter, why should I bother?
OK. We can move on for more of that honest debate.
When have you been debating honestly?
It's not like it's a lot of work for you to do. It's a matter of saying "yes" or "no".
Actually, it's a matter of saying "mu," isn't it? Your question was asked in bad faith, wasn't it? You're just trying to distract away from the accusations you made against me, aren't you?

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