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Originally posted by CRUX
and another thing, Dave.
If you did NOT believe that the statement you made was factually correct according to reports. if it was imaginary and never tested, then the questions about your statement, made as if fact ( strongly) are odd, to say the least.
If you presented something doubtful from me, something not fit for evidence here, please show that it was from me.
I truly do not think I presented that. |
WTF? |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 11:34:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
HH, The things you mention are not variables, because they do ..not...vary. |
The question did not ask "what varies?" as you have already documented.
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what question did not ask that ? |
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 11:35:47 [Permalink]
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 11:40:42 [Permalink]
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 11:42:40 [Permalink]
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 11:44:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by CRUX
[quote][quote]If you presented something doubtful from me, something not fit for evidence here, please show that it was from me.
I truly do not think I presented that. |
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It's pretty easy for anyone to say anything said was in response to "what you were saying".
So those were not factual, the informations which you presented ?
Either they are factual or they are not. Which, please ? To the best of your knowledge |
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 11:48:52 [Permalink]
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repeats.sorry.
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justintime
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 12:10:27 [Permalink]
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CRUX aka MG aka ragland just drop it. You have crossed the line several times accusing skeptic admins of lying. Skeptics by inference are fact finders. The only accusation one can make of DaveW and Kil is their extreme patience with critically insane individuals. By respecting the critical in critically insane they are generous to a fault. But promoting critical thinking is not an endorsement of the critically insane to freewill publicly every rumbling in their head.
Kil and DaveW should be commended for accommodating your innuendos, repetitious buffoonery, terse vitriolic insinuation which you are exploiting by making SFN a platform for some very sociopathic, paranoic, degenerative behavior. Nobody is out to get you. You just keep sinking deeper and deeper into those delusional states and on the wrong online forum if help is what you are looking for.
If it means so much to you to have skeptics all agree with your bizarre claims. You are on the wrong forum and with the wrong group. Remember they are skeptics not therapist.
Why don't you during your lucid moments have someone explain to your what you want to learn. This confrontation approach requires longer concentrations and periods of lucidity which your sleep deprived late night battles with your other daemons just does not allow for.
Take a break. Don't wait to get banned. You don't need more rejection in your life. |
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alienist
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 12:17:01 [Permalink]
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I am impressed Crux. I have never seen anyone twist himself and his answers in such complicated knots to try to prove he is winning an argument. It's like you are the Charlie Sheen of this thread.
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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 12:43:12 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
HH, The things you mention are not variables, because they do ..not...vary. |
Of course genes vary. They are definitely variables.
| Within the groups, there is NO variance of those items. |
Oh, you meant the genes for pigmentation don't vary much in this specific species of bird, which is relatively stable. Well, for one, just because a variable has a stable value doesn't mean it isn't a variable. It still is. Oxygen has a pretty uniform distribution in air, yet no sane person would claim that oxygen is not a variable of combustion. Secondly, the diet of this species of birds is also relatively stable and doesn't change much, so it's still unclear why you only focus on stable environmental variables and not stable genetic ones.
| I appreciate your question. We could move on, HH, if you would show which of them varies within the groups. |
Since a variable is any factor that can influence an outcome (in this case pigmentation change) both diet and genetics are the variables, regardless of their degree of actual variation within the population under consideration.
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justintime
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 13:03:06 [Permalink]
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Come on guys lets keep this fair. We are just feeding his paranoia. Somebody take up the cross and help CRUX. I am sure there are a few good point he has raised. Remember this is sequel 2 of Hair Cut. It is always easy to go against the loser but that is just the mob instinct on display.
There must be some journal out there that supports his view point.
How far is CRUX from someone who saw his reflection after a hard bout of drinking. Saw the close resemblance to apes and sprung up the theory of Evolution.
The only part the skeptics can challenge is the drinking bout. The rest is as they say history. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 13:08:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?
Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ? |
Where is your evidence? |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 15:17:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by CRUX
HH, The things you mention are not variables, because they do ..not...vary. |
Of course genes vary. They are definitely variables. |
HH, the genotype DOES NOT vary. You see, it's not about if genes CAN vary. It's about if they do IN THIS CASE.
In what case ? In the case of the groups. They are all same genotype.
| Within the groups, there is NO variance of those items. |
Oh, you meant the genes for pigmentation don't vary much in this specific species of bird |
HH, that is incorrect. It is not about that. It's about the fact that in such a group for testing, all are the same genotype. It's a "given".
| Oxygen has a pretty uniform distribution in air, yet no sane person would claim that oxygen is not a variable of combustion. |
HH, again, it's variable of what? of combustion? If we are talking about TESTING, and we CONTROL for oxygen, then it will be said to NOT vary and hence is NOT a variable in the test
Secondly, the diet of this species of birds is also relatively stable and doesn't change much |
Wrong. It is the sole variable, as it's to be used in the testing; color food or not.
| Since a variable is any factor that can influence |
( by the varying it does) , if it varies in the test
...which those do not ( except for food )..then not a variable in testing of the groups.
I appreciate your approach and inquisitive questions HH. Will reply so long as it can offer you anything IYO.
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justintime
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 16:31:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by H. Humbert
Originally posted by CRUX
HH, The things you mention are not variables, because they do ..not...vary. |
Of course genes vary. They are definitely variables. |
HH, the genotype DOES NOT vary. You see, it's not about if genes CAN vary. It's about if they do IN THIS CASE.
In what case ? In the case of the groups. They are all same genotype.
| Within the groups, there is NO variance of those items. |
Oh, you meant the genes for pigmentation don't vary much in this specific species of bird |
HH, that is incorrect. It is not about that. It's about the fact that in such a group for testing, all are the same genotype. It's a "given".
| Oxygen has a pretty uniform distribution in air, yet no sane person would claim that oxygen is not a variable of combustion. |
HH, again, it's variable of what? of combustion? If we are talking about TESTING, and we CONTROL for oxygen, then it will be said to NOT vary and hence is NOT a variable in the test
Secondly, the diet of this species of birds is also relatively stable and doesn't change much |
Wrong. It is the sole variable, as it's to be used in the testing; color food or not.
| Since a variable is any factor that can influence |
( by the varying it does) , if it varies in the test
...which those do not ( except for food )..then not a variable in testing of the groups.
I appreciate your approach and inquisitive questions HH. Will reply so long as it can offer you anything IYO.
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CRUX you might want to read a little more before attempting to answer questions. Genotype is never referenced for a group and are uniquely different from person to person. They vary from person to person. You are incorrectly using the word genotype. I know you are the expert here so feel free to correct me if I am wrong. 
1. The genotype is the genetic makeup of a cell, an organism, or an individual (i.e. the specific allele makeup of the individual) usually with reference to a specific character under consideration.
2. Typically, one refers to an individual's genotype with regard to a particular gene of interest and, in polyploid individuals, it refers to what combination of alleles the individual carries (see homozygous, heterozygous).
3. Only identical twins have the same genotype because they have the exact same genes. Identical twins are formed when one fertilized egg (zygote) splits in two and each of the now two zygotes each develop...
4. Genotyping is the process of determining differences in the genetic make-up (genotype) of an individual by examining the individual's DNA sequence using biological assays and comparing it to another individual's sequence or a reference sequence. It reveals the alleles an individual has inherited from their parents
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/26/2011 : 16:40:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
The question asked was what causes a white flamingo to turn pink. |
I don't see anything in the question about testing, control or variables. CRUX is just trying to change the subject.Originally posted by CRUX
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?
Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ? |
I'm still waiting for the evidence of these accusations to be presented. |
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