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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  08:49:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

To search the archives is a demanding time consuming task.
And saying that I altered a thread to cover-up my embarrassment is an extremely serious accusation, isn't it? One that you volunteered, right?
If Dave were serious, he would not be making time-waster efforts, such as stonewalling on simple answers to things he is currently throwing out there.
Yet you are still wasting time, aren't you? You must not be serious, correct?
He would not have been badgering for a completed and correct report in time that would not allow such.
I asked you how much time you would need to do your homework, didn't I? Since then, I've repeatedly asked you when you would be presenting your evidence, haven't I? You have steadfastly refused to answer, haven't you?
He would want my time freed up, wouldn't he?
You're claiming that I am forcing you to write time-wasting comments here instead of digging up the evidence that you already claimed to know about? Seriously?

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  08:49:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Dave, you have provided AMPLE evidence that you are and have been behaving VERY unethically !
That's not the question, now is it?
Yes. It has a bearing on what you have been doing here. Unethical administrative demands of putting up impossible tasks shows it's not about getting to the truth at all. It's about fighting. You think this is "Fight Club" or something.

Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 08:52:08
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  08:54:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by CRUX

Dave, you have provided AMPLE evidence that you are and have been behaving VERY unethically !
That's not the question, now is it?
Yes. It has a bearing on what you have been doing here. Unetical administrative demands of putting up impossible tasks shows it's not about getting to the truth at all. It's about fighting.
So now you are claiming that supporting your accusations with evidence is an "impossible task?"

Since when have I made any sort of "administrative demand" on you? Mab finally did, but that was less than an hour ago, wasn't it?

The important question is: when will you be presenting the evidence that you say exists that demonstrates that I have altered a thread in order to save face?

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  08:56:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
[br... critical thinking, evidence is required. You suggested from ignorance. Using Internet sources, I can also suggest that we never went to the moon.
Your intellect is like sludge.

Show the public education site that carries moonshot hoax material. Thank you.

You are dismissed for your clumsy attempt at using such tactics.

....


Strawman. Internet sources are not public education sites.


ahahhahaha. that is funny. explain it to the many that exist.


http://www.aulis.com/nasa3.htm

Explain how this one is a public education site.

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:10:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
[br... critical thinking, evidence is required. You suggested from ignorance. Using Internet sources, I can also suggest that we never went to the moon.
Your intellect is like sludge.

Show the public education site that carries moonshot hoax material. Thank you.

You are dismissed for your clumsy attempt at using such tactics.

....


Strawman. Internet sources are not public education sites.


ahahhahaha. that is funny. explain it to the many that exist.


http://www.aulis.com/nasa3.htm

Explain how this one is a public education site.
Why should I do that ?
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:14:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
DaveW. Is it a fact that sometimes your administrative cap is on. but then sometimes it is off ? And...only official messages are really considered to come from Admin, even if an Admin gives demand warning or implied threat.

I see how it goes.

As to the impossible tasks, the "explain this hair" task was one. You admit some trickery do you not ? It was virtually impossible to do.

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:20:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The offical warning just given me is a fine exhibit of unfair admin tactics being applied.

Anyone can easily count the insults, and find that on some pages, more insults are found in one person's posts against me, than in all my posts on the page. There are different ways of assessing it too.

Look at this situation. If a team is attacking a single person, and the team members fire in 2 insult shots each, and the single person fires back two shots each, he has put out twenty return volleys..and is ten times worse than ANYONE !!! YAY GET HIM !

Look at all the insults, and only I got a warning. The insults against me are very much higher in count than mine are.

Only one warning issued = unfair.

There is a great deal of sloppy admin going on here.

Where is mabus' admin badge ?

It's all "now my hat is on, now it's off". Admin personally engaging in bitter arguments, name calling, and a host of other questionable activities, then taking action only against the opponent of the team.
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 09:35:35
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:36:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

DaveW. Is it a fact that sometimes your administrative cap is on. but then sometimes it is off ? And...only official messages are really considered to come from Admin, even if an Admin gives demand warning or implied threat.
Do you have a problem with that? I think we make it pretty clear when we're just here discussing things like regular people, and when we're saying things as staff, don't we? The red text and red boxes mean something, yes?
As to the impossible tasks, the "explain this hair" task was one. You admit some trickery do you not ? It was virtually impossible to do.
You were supposed to realize that there was no single "cause" for the man's appearance, as I already explained to you, yes? You do understand rhetorical questions and how they're different from "trick" questions or Sisyphean tasks, right? Even MG could have simply said "male and female" instead of loudly proclaiming his ignorance, or was his stupidity the thing that made the question impossible for him to answer?
Look at all the insults, and only I got a warning. The insults against me are very much higher in count than mine are.
Do you think that only the sheer count of insults is what would get a person a warning? Do you think that the warning is specific to the insults, or specific to the fact that you refuse to tell us when you'll be providing evidence of my bad behavior in the previous thread?

That is the most-important question right now: when will you be presenting your evidence that I altered the previous thread to hide stuff that would embarrass me? Everything else can wait while we get this straightened out, yes?

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:41:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.
[brDaveW. Is it a fact that sometimes your administrative cap is on. but then sometimes it is off ?
Of course, as the recipient of such action, I do. Even if I were not, I would object. Even were I a team member, I would object to us doing it.
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 09:44:15
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justintime
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:44:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
CRUX aka MG aka ragland. Quit the act. All your fancy footwork isn't working here nor did it work at the other sites. What is wrong with you? You crossed the line and you are not even conscious of it.

You have had these delusions of grandeur for quite sometime. This is not the right environment for a person suffering from delusions. This is a skeptic Friends Network. It can only make you more skeptical of your deteriorating condition.

I don't quite get it why you are attacking DaveW and SFN. The thread Hair2 Cut was inactive for over 3 years. If your intention was to defend your super-ego MG position. You had plenty of time to prepare. But instead, all you could muster was the deranged vitriolic spewing.

This is totally unacceptable behavior, venting your frustrations on members/admins who accommodated your anonymity and courteously dealt with your self absorption.

Time to apologize and move on. Don't embarrass yourself by overstaying your welcome. You are a international spectacle. Snap out and take the offer made by DaveW, Kil.



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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:47:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fancy footwork is that much more esthetically pleasing than the brutish stumbling : )
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:48:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where are all the other warnings and actions taken for insults in this thread ?

If this is important to admin, why not clamp down NOW and put a stop to it all round ? Zero Tolerance and let's see if we can clear up the mess.

The thread mess is because admin allowed outrageous attacks from one side ( and provided not a few themselves ), and took action against the other side.

Why would it have become so crazed over flamingos, if it was not ALLOWED and ENCOURAGED to sink to the depths of internet miasma ?

Does not such high ( only relatively speaking ) volume on this one topic, making this site ALL ABOUT Skeptics and PINK FLAMINGOS, lend a cachet that is treasured ?

Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:00:25
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  10:01:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Your demand is unreasonable, Your attack is unethical.

My demand is not unreasonable.

On page 15 you wrote:
Originally posted by CRUX
Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?

Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?

Here you are accusing Dave of creatively editing a thread after MG was banned, in order to "revise history". Such a behaviour would be a gross violation of our ethics, and thus a serious allegation of misconduct.

You simply do not make such allegations unless you have, and can present, EVIDENCE.

To search the archives is a demanding time consuming task.
Then you better get busy!
Your continued presence at this forum depends on your actions. Either support your allegations with evidence, or recant and sincerely apologise to Dave.

Don't you realise that you've accused Dave of one of the most serious breaches of ethics possible to a skeptic forum such as ours? It's a character assassination attempt. Most forums would have banned you long ago. We are giving you the opportunity to make things right.

If Dave were serious, he would not be making time-waster efforts, such as stonewalling on simple answers to things he is currently throwing out there.
You are the one wasting time: This accusation of breach of ethics is pre-empting any and all other debates you may want to participate in. I don't think you are in position to demand any answers until this is resolved.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  10:01:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

If this is important to admin, why not clamp down NOW and put a stop to it all round ? Zero Tolerance and let's see if we can clear up the mess.
We've tolerated your baseless accusations against me, so why would we feel insults are so devastating as to impose a zero-tolerance policy against them?
The thread mess is because admin allowed outrageous attacks from one side...
Yes, when will you be providing the evidence you claim exists that I altered a thread to hide something(s) that would have made me look stupid? That is the "outrageous attack" to which you're referring, right?

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justintime
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  10:02:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
CRUX. You are starting to whine now. Everyone here is getting along fine. It is just you who is having a problem. Having been here before you could have improved your attitude and phenotype before rejoining. The rest of the group appears to share the same congenial genotypes.

We cannot fix your genes here. But you can make better use of what you were given and APOLOGIZE.
Edited by - justintime on 09/27/2011 10:04:12
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