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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:04:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by CRUX
Your demand is unreasonable, Your attack is unethical.
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My demand is not unreasonable.
On page 15 you wrote: Originally posted by CRUX Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?
Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
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Here you are accusing Dave of creatively editing a thread after MG was banned, in order to "revise history". Such a behaviour would be a gross violation of our ethics, and thus a serious allegation of misconduct. | Where are your other warnings for insults, and where does your ID as ADMIN show ?
It's a character assassination attempt. | It certainly is NOT. Quite some time ago, I saw something had disappeared that was previously there. It made MG's position less favourable. I didn't make it up that the thread got changed.
After I blurted out about revisionism, and DaveW seized on it, I did ask Kil how he knows there was no removal. I was not assured that the threads are secured. |
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:17:37 |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:16:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse
Originally posted by CRUX
Your demand is unreasonable, Your attack is unethical.
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My demand is not unreasonable.
On page 15 you wrote: Originally posted by CRUX Will you deny that you altered thread 1 after banning MG ?
Removing some of your own comments and some others, comments that might have been embarrassing to you because you were shown to be stupid ?
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Here you are accusing Dave of creatively editing a thread after MG was banned, in order to "revise history". Such a behaviour would be a gross violation of our ethics, and thus a serious allegation of misconduct.
You simply do not make such allegations unless you have, and can present, EVIDENCE.
To search the archives is a demanding time consuming task. | Then you better get busy! Your continued presence at this forum depends on your actions. Either support your allegations with evidence, or recant and sincerely apologise to Dave.
Don't you realise that you've accused Dave of one of the most serious breaches of ethics possible to a skeptic forum such as ours? It's a character assassination attempt. Most forums would have banned you long ago. We are giving you the opportunity to make things right.
If Dave were serious, he would not be making time-waster efforts, such as stonewalling on simple answers to things he is currently throwing out there. | You are the one wasting time: This accusation of breach of ethics is pre-empting any and all other debates you may want to participate in. I don't think you are in position to demand any answers until this is resolved.
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Dr Mabuse, Is it possible we are communication at the wrong level with CRUX? He might be feeling boxed in because those principled qualities we are expecting of him may not be there or developed.
We could be asking him to do something that is very foreign to him. Because no one knows what he is behind his anonymity. |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:32:34 [Permalink]
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I do not wish to harm the forum, or any of the admin. I am absolutely desiring that the unfair one sided intimidation and unfair gang warfare practices cease, and I would be delighted to know that it was not DaveW.
I would enjoy a hot argument forum, a fair one. Even if it were to remain unfair, I would not wish to harm it. Nothing wrong with entertainment that is vicious. I would certainly, immediately, and unreservedly apologize to all and individually, were I assured in some way that I was in error. |
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:33:28 |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:33:22 [Permalink]
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http://www.skepticfriends.org/staff.asp
Provide evidence of Dave's ethical breach in the execution of his duties. No more avoidance of the issue. No unsupported accusations. What you have suggested is a serious offense.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:34:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
http://www.skepticfriends.org/staff.asp
Provide evidence of Dave's ethical breach in the execution of his duties. No more avoidance of the issue. No unsupported accusations. What you have suggested is a serious offense.
| Thank you.
Where is his hat ? I even brought his own page, and I could see nothing. How is one to know these things when it's hidden away ? When is the hat on, and when is it off ?
Can an admin take his hat off, run in to throw a few boots into a body, then run back and put the hat on ? |
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:42:47 |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:38:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
http://www.skepticfriends.org/staff.asp
Provide evidence of Dave's ethical breach in the execution of his duties. No more avoidance of the issue. No unsupported accusations. What you have suggested is a serious offense.
| Where is his hat ?
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Where is it required that he have a hat?
You have been provided with a link to this site's staff page.
He is there clearly marked as a forum moderator.
Provide your evidence. |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:46:08 [Permalink]
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Where is it required that he have a hat? You have been provided with a link to this site's staff page. |
I don't think that not having that requirement, is as positive a feature as you think it is. |
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:48:10 |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:48:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
I do not wish to harm the forum, or any of the admin. | Then why are you trying to harm me with your baseless allegations?I would certainly, immediately, and unreservedly apologize to all and individually, were I assured in some way that I was in error. | Nononono, it was your accusation, you should have had solid evidence before you decided to go public with it, right? In fact, you suggested in no uncertain terms that you have such evidence, just not in a "file" (whatever that means), so your current appeal for assurances that you are in error is dishonest on its face, isn't it? |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail) Evidently, I rock! Why not question something for a change? Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:49:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Where is it required that he have a hat? You have been provided with a link to this site's staff page. |
I don't think that not having that requirement, is as positive a feature as you think it is.
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Immaterial to the matter at hand.
He is a moderator.
Provide your evidence. |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:50:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
I do not wish to harm the forum, or any of the admin. | Then why are you trying to harm me with your baseless allegations? |
They are not baseless, and I do not wish to harm you. I said what I believed, as you attacked unfairly.
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Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:51:34 |
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:51:20 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by CRUX
Where is it required that he have a hat? You have been provided with a link to this site's staff page. | I don't think that not having that requirement, is as positive a feature as you think it is. | You must be joking, right? You do realize that a "hat," in this context, is a metaphor, yes? |
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 : 10:53:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by CRUX
Where is it required that he have a hat? You have been provided with a link to this site's staff page. | I don't think that not having that requirement, is as positive a feature as you think it is. | You must be joking, right? You do realize that a "hat," in this context, is a metaphor, yes?
| Since I'm using the metaphor, I take responsibility for using the metaphor. Do you have a complaint about the metaphor ? is it not fitting ? |
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 10:57:29 |
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