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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:29:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

you know, looking back at my recent posts, one quote box says "Dave" said, and there was a visible area above that showed it was a reply to something Dave said, but it was my previous own reply showing in the box.
Link to it. There's a "permalink" on every reply.
IF these things get fixed to show the correct attribution..it's a change.
Yet still not a deletion of comments that showed me to be stupid.

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:31:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

CRUX:
I need explicit explanation because I don't know all the terms and what happens w the tech.

Need it for what? Your ongoing investigation? I have tried to answer all of your questions. But enough is enough. Here's the bottom line. You are playing in our sandbox right now, because we let you. Not because you have any rights here. You don't. Work it out for yourself.



a shitty sandbox. I was only stretching for a possible solution that did not involve blaming you, but instead blaming method problem in cleanups. But if it's too much, it's too much.
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 22:37:00
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:35:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

a shitty sandbox
That still is not evidence that I (or anyone else here) screwed up or tried to cover-up my (our) own stupidity.

By the way, have you ever written anything here under the name MuhammedGoldstein?

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:42:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

I was only stretching for a possible solution that did not involve blaming you...
How magnanimous of you to try to avoid blaming a figment of your imagination on someone else! I bow to your compassionate generosity!


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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:49:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's not possible that nothing happened, because something did change, as I said.

It is open access by all staff ? and routine clean ups ?
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 22:51:54
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Kil
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:55:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

It's not possible that nothing happened, because something did change, as I said.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  22:58:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If I'm looking for reasons why it was not deliberate, and it frustrates you. I won't.
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  23:05:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That was what I was doing, and all the while I was trying to reduce blame on you, and reduce loaded words, in order to sort through it, and meanwhile Dave amps up the accusation rate and plays games with every word in order to twist meaning......failure on that score.

Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 23:06:54
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Kil
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  23:14:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
CRUX. You have to have something to blame me for before you can reduce it. And you accused Dave of having done something unethical. But thanks for trying to sort it out. Let me know when you have concluded your investigation. I await your findings with baited breath...

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  23:14:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There is blame and there is blame. Some kinds of blame are reasonable. Taking blame does not mean that everything negative that had been mentioned is accepted. It could mean just faulty forethought of what might might happen under odd circumstances.

To me if the door is permanently open so that any staff can go in, it is a mistake. it should be one. but that's just my opinion and it's not the topic really.
The point is that mistakes happen and they are a different kind of blameworthy.



Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 23:21:46
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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  23:38:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.

That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.

However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.


good nite
Edited by - CRUX on 09/27/2011 23:54:08
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justintime
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  04:19:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
CRUX it is so obvious you are pushing to be banned and come out a martyr for the heavy handed treatment the mentally challenged have to endure on public forums.

You have been asked to APOLOGIZE. Several warnings were posted by Mods and Admins to get you to come clean. This insistence you provide evidence for your innuendo and character assassination of DaveW in addition to backing up all your other assertions can be overwhelming for someone in your mental condition. Your paranoia is quite understandable.

You ask for evidence where none exist. You claim to have evidence to support your charges and none are produced. There are several conversations going on all at the same time in your head. You are in a familiar place and you are actually enjoying it.

But snap out CRUX/ragland. The people here are real. The conversation is real. The warnings are real. You are still stuck in the shit box living is abject squalor. You have not advanced in either your personal situation or your position on this forum by this continued delusions of grandeur that you are somehow winning in this futile endeavor.

I am taking your side. I understand your situation. There is a graceful and face saving exit. Open your eyes and APOLOGIZE. because doing things with your eyes closed is what is keeping you in the dark.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  04:23:05   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

It's not possible that nothing happened, because something did change, as I said.
You can't even provide evidence that "something did change." Not after MG was banned, as you claimed.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  05:34:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

you know, looking back at my recent posts, one quote box says "Dave" said, and there was a visible area above that showed it was a reply to something Dave said, but it was my previous own reply showing in the box.

IF these things get fixed to show the correct attribution..it's a change.
How much change can occur by fixing quote boxes? Nothing or something ?
It would seem to me it could possibly reverse a wrong attribution if wrong quote boxes are fixed.
no ?


Nothing. Merely putting in the [/quote] html tag draws the boxes correctly. It does not change the meaning nor attributation.

No, it wouldn't. You are being paranoid.

The general concensus is if we cannot determine in what context the quote exists through rules of English and a review of the messages in the thread, we leave the post alone in all it's confused jumble.

You are looking for a possibility to be able to launch another unfounded accusation against the forum staff. If you really feel that put upon by having to actually defend your positions with evidence, then perhaps a different forum would be more appropriate for you.


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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  05:38:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Plus it's blameworthy to leave Dr. mabuse's improper badgering and threatening posts unattended to, and same with some of VD's posts. ( Since Dr Mabuse made an error, his estimation of the state of affairs should be struck for sure. There were plenty of insults but only I got warnings ). The doubling and tripling demand and warning posts are nothing but team flak.

That, you get blamed for if you don't show it nullified.

However, you probably could care less about being blamed there. The other blame, for a failure to anticipate an unusual circumstance, in planning for staff access and mistakes and *human nature* to not lose an argument...is less pointed.


good nite



The warnings were not for insults.

They were for accusing staff of ethical breaches without evidence.

We were acting in our roles as forum moderators.

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