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filthy
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By now, we all know of the decision on Habeus Corpus, with the pig Scalia leading the dissent. Bush administration in "disarray" after Supreme Court slapdown on habeas
John Aravosis (DC) · 6/13/2008 10:43:00 AM ET · Link
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Yeah, those 5-4 decisions are a real bitch, President Gore. From the Washington Post:
In the days following the Sept. 11 attacks, President Bush and his advisers sought to create an unprecedented parallel system to detain suspected terrorists far from the normal scrutiny of the U.S. judiciary. The naval base at Guantanamo Bay offered a way to indefinitely hold those individuals the administration considered among the most dangerous in the world.
But the Supreme Court's decision yesterday to grant habeas corpus rights to the detainees struck at the very core of the administration's approach, as a narrow majority ruled that even hardened suspects are due the basic right to challenge their custody in federal court. The ruling throws into disarray the administration's detention strategy, almost certainly leaving to Bush's successor and the next Congress the dilemma of what to do with the Guantanamo Bay detainees. |
The Rude Pundit pretty much sums my own thoughts on the matter, so I'll let him tell it for both of us. The Rude Pundit
Proudly lowering the level of political discourse
6/13/2008
Gitmo Decision Reaction on the Right: Have You Guys Read the Constitution?:
So the Rude Pundit just wants to get this straight: if you think yesterday's Supreme Court decision was a pile of shit, then you believe that the United States has the right to hold foreign nationals without allowing them to challenge their imprisonment in fair, open courts. You believe that a special court with special rules of evidence and special procedures is the only means through which a presidentially-designated "alien enemy combatant" held at a United States-run facility can even say, "Umm, do you have any proof I'm anything more than a fuckin' goat herder who was wandering in the right field at the wrong time?" You believe that the Constitution and the Geneva Conventions (except in the narrowest possible interpretation) do not apply to prisoners held at Gitmo. And you're absolutely hysterical, batshit insane over the idea that a human being held without ever being told why might get to ask. |
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Edited by - filthy on 06/13/2008 17:22:03
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Kil
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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 Posted - 06/13/2008 : 18:01:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
McCain didn't like the decision.
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Yes, I read that. And there is exactly why McCain must not win. We don't need any more fascist bastards on the Big Bench. Nor any more on the smaller ones, comes to that.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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the_ignored
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:11:44 [Permalink]
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Well, for another take down of Bush, maybe you'd be interested in this article by Congressman Dennis Kucinich.
Should this be it's own thread topic, maybe?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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Kil
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 09:40:37 [Permalink]
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| While all true, it's wishful thinking to think anything will come out of this. Perhaps Kucinich just wanted to get it into the congressional record. I dunno. I'm not sure if it even counts as a takedown of Bush, since it will be largely ignored. Sad, isn't it? |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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pleco
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:27:18 [Permalink]
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| Is the SCOTUS now considered an "activist" court? |
by Filthy
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BigPapaSmurf
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 10:30:31 [Permalink]
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| Depends on the ruling. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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filthy
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Posted - 06/14/2008 : 13:30:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by BigPapaSmurf
Depends on the ruling.
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And which blithering head is slobbering about it.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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The Supremos get one right!
