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Siberia
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Brazil
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  12:42:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Siberia's Homepage  Send Siberia an AOL message  Send Siberia a Yahoo! Message Send Siberia a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Robb

Originally posted by Dude

Robb said:
Jesus says you have:

But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. Mt :28

Robb... I'm single, never been married.

So tell me, how is it that I have committed adultery if I look at a woman and think "lustful" thoughts?
All I am repeating is christian theology from the Bible. Jesus equates lustful thoughts with adultry. I take this to be sexual thoughts without regard to the person you are lusting after. Only sexual gratifivatuion at the expense of the other person.

What if I "lust" for someone who doesn't actually exist, such as an ideal of beauty that exists only in my imagination?

Why He would give a shit is beyond me, too. But then, He seems to want all the attention over to himself, 24/7. Not a selfish, arrogant thing to want, at all. Not like an obsessive control freak, at all, either.

"Why are you afraid of something you're not even sure exists?"
- The Kovenant, Via Negativa

"People who don't like their beliefs being laughed at shouldn't have such funny beliefs."
-- unknown
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H. Humbert
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USA
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  12:48:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Robb
All I am repeating is christian theology from the Bible. Jesus equates lustful thoughts with adultry. I take this to be sexual thoughts without regard to the person you are lusting after. Only sexual gratifivatuion at the expense of the other person.
There's that personal interpretation again. So much for your claim that you just follow the bible as its written without putting your personal gloss over it, Robb.

I hope you can begin to see that the idea that such a thing is even possible is a lie, Robb. Everyone interprets the bible to fit their own meaning, including you. Including the minister who claims not to. Someone sold you a bill of goods. There is no such thing as following the bible "as god intended." You've been duped.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  13:38:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

I'm not suggesting that we give up. I was just pointing out the difficulties of getting through…
Yeah, I'm just getting tweaked at the "they didn't use reason to form this belief" idea. I think a lot of skeptics use it as a club. I'd like to see less of it, is all.

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Hawks
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Canada
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Posted - 08/14/2008 :  21:11:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Robb
In all of this it is still your brain telling you what is right and wrong and good and bad. Why do you think that what your brain tells you is more valid than what my brain tells me about right and wrong and good and bad?

Why do you think that what your god tells you is more valid than what my god tells me about right and wrong and good and bad?

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