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Orwellingly Yurz
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USA
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Posted - 09/22/2008 :  14:41:22  Show Profile Send Orwellingly Yurz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
YO:

"It's not a bail out, it's a stick up." ---Naomi Klein, who predicted this in her book, "The Shock Doctrine."

OY Sez:

She explains that the Straussian neocons know that the worse things get for the middle class-average person,the more progressive and the more leftward a society shifts. Populist appeal is in vogue. That would explain why John McSame and his financial geniuses (Phil Gramm, one of them) have abruptly shifted to populist rhetoric. There they go again, changing more history as Orwell taught perceptive people in his primer on how totalitarianism comes to be: 1984.

The striking down of fiduciary responsibility is essential to the privatizing of profit and the socializing of debt.

It would lead one to believe that neocons are inhumane.

Another quote I heard today: "The bail out is like charging a woman for the use of a rape kit needed to prove she's been raped." In the past, I've heard others say something to the effect, "The fucking you get for the fucking you got. Neither of them your choice."

John "Keating Five" McCain is not in the best interest for MOST of the people who live in this flailing democracy. Welcome to corporatocracy. Better cross your legs and keep you seat, if you know what I mean.

"The modern conservative...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy. That is the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness."
--John Kenneth Galbraith

If dogs run free
Then what must be,
Must be...
And that is all
--Bob Dylan

The neo-cons have gotten welfare for themselves down to a fine art.
--me

"The meek shall inherit the earth, but not the mineral rights."
--J. Paul Getty

"The great thing about Art isn't what it give us, but what we become through it."
--Oscar Wilde

"We have Art in order not to die of life."
--Albert Camus

"I cling like a miser to the freedom I lose when surrounded by an abundance of things."
--Albert Camus

"Experience is the name so many people give to their mistakes."
--Oscar Wilde

Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2008 :  16:01:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Lets just hope that the dems finally grow a pair and stand up to Bush on this one.

The S&L bailout returned a profit to the taxpayer, and this abomination proposed by Bush is nothing more than the creation of the world's first trillionaire, with taxpayer money and ZERO oversight.

It is a surrender of conressional power to the exec (financial oversight).


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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astropin
SFN Regular

USA
970 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2008 :  19:25:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
With 700,000,000,000 dedicated to the cause we could get COMPLETELY off oil in two years.

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

Infinitus est numerus stultorum
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Zeked
Skeptic Friend

USA
90 Posts

Posted - 09/22/2008 :  20:23:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Zeked a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Let your represenatives know how you feel about the bailouts. A whopping 4 hours allowed for discussion on the floor Thursday.

http://www.congress.org/congressorg/directory/congdir.tt
http://www.visi.com/juan/congress/

We like definitions here right? McCain and Obama focus their responses on wanting "oversight" of the economic situation. The word "oversight" is a contranym (i.e., a word with diametrically opposed meanings). One meaning is "to give close attention to," while the other definition is "to fail to see." I wonder which of these meanings will be embraced by these would-be philosopher-kings?

McCain played his hand on his definition today by stating his economic solution (in such a drab whispering monotone that made Chomsky seem delightful), "we need bigger government". I can't believe that passed by the media today. Well yeah, I can...

The untouchable Paulson with his solid foundations of "no bailouts", "restricted bailouts" and "700 billion in bailouts" in the last 144 hours - topped with the last Friday restriction of ~800 companies from short sellers, that produced the exact opposite effect of what was intended in the markets today - Paulson a man of such insight that knows the markets "better than anybody" is flopping around like a fish on hot asphalt. Lets give him god status with no review or accountability to write checks of any value to buy companies of unknown value. Joy! Zeros are of no value, so lets add three more. Paulson is a f@cking idiot.

Lets just make everbody AAA certified banks and call it good.

The Obama campaign signs "change we need" will serve a post election purpose of soliciting coins on the street corners. Get your Obama signs now, they are multipurpose.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 09/23/2008 :  16:26:32   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm waiting for a candidate to step up and demand that some corporate charters be revoked, some CEOs criminally prosecuted, and some government officials (elected and appointed) be impeached.

This whole thing is a fucking joke.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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