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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 10/04/2008 :  13:30:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Socialists are selfish, they want what others have earned.



By they way; Mab's puzzlement is justified.


Most socialists thinkers have been intellectuals whose revenues were higher than average.

That would be especially true about Obama (if there was any clue of him; you know; being socialist).


So; socialists having a higher than average revenue, they would stand to loose by the adoption of the system they advocate.
So, no, not shellfish and willing to give away part of what they earned.


I know you were probably not planning on making sense but I am bad at keeping my mouth shut sometime.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  14:46:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by calebjones1234
Socialists are selfish, they want what others have earned.
Sadly, Mab, there are Americans who a) really think this, and b) think that people who are left of center (so, most of the Democratic Party) are really just socialists.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  19:03:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Curiously, the closest thing to Democrats we have in Sweden is a party called "Folkpartiet", and they are on the right of center... Their counterparts in other European countries are also right of center.

American politics (from my European perspective) is so generally right-leaning that the whole scale is on its merry way toppling over and crashing into the Atlantic. The ordinary Republican is in right-most quarter in the most right wing party in the Swedish parliament. Then add evangelical/fanatic conservative Christianity onto that. The thought of such people in crowds horrifies me to no end!
People are entitled to their opinions of course, but I can't for my life figure out, or understand, how they arrived there.

Perhaps my inability to go there politically, resembles evangelical Christian's inability to understand an atheist's perspective: that atheists are not denying a God whom they in their hearts know exists, but for atheists the idea of god or godhood is meaningless and/or pointless.

Humankind evolved as a highly social species. For me it seems only natural that a socialistic community is a survival trait. Add democracy into that, and you've created a social-democratic ideology.
Edited to add: Very generalised, of course.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse

Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder.
Edited by - Dr. Mabuse on 10/04/2008 19:06:53
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calebjones1234
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95 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  21:00:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Simon


Socialists are selfish, they want what others have earned.



By they way; Mab's puzzlement is justified.


Most socialists thinkers have been intellectuals whose revenues were higher than average.

That would be especially true about Obama (if there was any clue of him; you know; being socialist).


So; socialists having a higher than average revenue, they would stand to loose by the adoption of the system they advocate.
So, no, not shellfish and willing to give away part of what they earned.


I know you were probably not planning on making sense but I am bad at keeping my mouth shut sometime.




Only because you do not understand that socialist leaders are the ones taking from the poor.


Look to your history.

The evidence is apparent.


You would exactly expect those that are in the upper classes to use socialism to further their gain, whilst presenting to the proles that the gain is theirs.




Look to history to understand the present.



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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  22:24:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
calebjones1234

Deal with the posts on page 5 of this thread.

Explain how you aren't a racist and a liar.

Do not move on until you do. Try and you will be banned from this forum. Start here.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  06:24:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Kil

calebjones1234
Explain how you aren't a racist and a liar.

Do not move on until you do. Try and you will be banned from this forum.





You wonder why your forum is nothing more than a backslapping exercise in masturbatory thought that does not grow?


You will ban those that will not admit that they are the names you call them.


I think you may be taking too many of those pain pills.



Do not pretend you are interested in thought or talk, you are only interested in self confirming idiocy.


Good bye.




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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  06:28:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
http://www.obamacrimes.com/



The lawsuit against Obama.


You idiots are going to vote for someone not proven an American citizen.


Stupid is as stupid does.

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  08:20:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

Do not pretend you are interested in thought or talk, you are only interested in self confirming idiocy.
More projection, since you run away when evidence or arghument that disconfirms your position is presented. What are you afraid of, caleb, that you won't explain how Obama's mother's sex life is relevant to his presidential candidacy?

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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calebjones1234
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Posted - 10/05/2008 :  12:07:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by calebjones1234

Do not pretend you are interested in thought or talk, you are only interested in self confirming idiocy.
More projection, since you run away when evidence or arghument that disconfirms your position is presented. What are you afraid of, caleb, that you won't explain how Obama's mother's sex life is relevant to his presidential candidacy?



I was told not to talk about it, or I would be Banned.

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Kil
Evil Skeptic

USA
13477 Posts

Posted - 10/05/2008 :  12:18:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

Originally posted by Kil

calebjones1234
Explain how you aren't a racist and a liar.

Do not move on until you do. Try and you will be banned from this forum.



You will ban those that will not admit that they are the names you call them.


I asked you to support the opposite of the above assertion. I asked you to explain to me why I shouldn't draw the conclusions I have from what you have posted in this thread. And once again you have failed to support your claim and have tried to turn the table and insult me in the process, all the while playing the victim.

I told you what would happen if you failed to follow my directions.


calebjones1234
Good bye.







Back at you.


calebjones1234, you are banned from further participation at this time on the SFN forums. You will receive an email with specific instructions for you to follow on how this banning might be lifted.

Kil


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

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