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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  13:26:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've seen street hookers do stuff like that!

Another Poll:

{{{{DRUDGE POLL}}}} WHO WON THE VICE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE?...

BIDEN

28% 146,432
PALIN

70% 360,782
NEITHER

2% 9,583

Total Votes: 516,797


It is to laugh....




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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calebjones1234
BANNED

95 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  16:07:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send calebjones1234 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you guys are going by these polls than Ron Paul should be the GOP candidate.

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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist

USA
4955 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  16:21:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Cuneiformist a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

If you guys are going by these polls than Ron Paul should be the GOP candidate.
Uh, we aren't. Thankfully.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  17:39:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by calebjones1234

If you guys are going by these polls than Ron Paul should be the GOP candidate.


I repeat: it is to .....

But the Republican machine, being infected with festering political syphilis and it's accompanying chancres as it is, I make no predictions. We could well be looking at 2,000 CE redux.

So cheer up, Caleb! Hell pollyticks, those parasites of the Psittacinae, will go as they will and should be taken dead seriously only by the candidates, their parties, and their assassins. For the rest of us, it's vote our conscience and hope for the best, as we hoard canned goods & stockpile ammunition.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 10/03/2008 17:43:13
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  21:25:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I wonder where the reaction is, from the rightwing, on Palin's removal of the "strict construction" plank is?

She said in the debate that the Constitution was "flexible" in defining the role of VP. In fact, the Constitution is quite clear, and Palin's interpretation is liberal in the extreme.

I guess the hardcore rightwingers missed that in their orgy of celebrating the fact she didn't have a Palin moment in the debate.

I guess this means we won't be hearing any more of the "strict constructionist judge" talk from republicans, at least for the rest of this campaign. Good!


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Simon
SFN Regular

USA
1992 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  21:35:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was under the impression that it could actually vary quite a bit; from a bucket of warm piss to Cheneus imperatus.

This variation may not be present in the constitution, however.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
Carl Sagan - 1996
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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 10/03/2008 :  22:09:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The VP has two constitutional responsibilites.

1. Vote in the senate to break a tie.

2. Replace the president if that person becomes incapacitated.

Thats it.

The president can delegate some reponsibility to them, just how much depends on the president in question (Bush has been an extreme case with giving Cheney any exec power Cheney wants).

Cheney has dodged responsibility for his actions by claiming he isn't really a part of the exec. It is all bullshit, obviously.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dave W.
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USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  00:42:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Still no substantive response from caleb on how Palin "exposed Obama as a fraud." I'm thinking that caleb is full of crap.

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Why not question something for a change?
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  01:42:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Still no substantive response from caleb on how Palin "exposed Obama as a fraud." I'm thinking that caleb is full of crap.
Could it be that caleb simply doesn't have a leg to stand on?


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  02:46:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Robb

Both sides tell untruths. Which is why they are politicians. Fact Check

So, it comes down to who tells the worst lie?

* "No, I didn't get a blow-job in the oval office..."

* "We have to attack Iraq, we have proof of weapons of mass destruction..."

I can see how a puritan Christian fanatic would choose the first example as the worse lie, because in the second lie God will surely sort out the casualties and make sure they get what they are due.


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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  03:13:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Something I found interesting:
(CNN) -- An analysis carried out by a language monitoring service said Friday that Gov. Sarah Palin spoke at a more than ninth-grade level and Sen. Joseph Biden spoke at a nearly eighth-grade level in Thursday night's debate between the vice presidential candidates.


Sen. Joe Biden used 5,492 words during the debate; Gov. Sarah Palin used 5,235.

The analysis by the Austin, Texas-based Global Language Monitor said Palin, governor of Alaska and the GOP vice presidential nominee, used the passive voice in 8 percent of her sentences, far more than the 5 percent used by the Democratic senator from Delaware.

The analysis noted that the "passive voice can be used to deflect responsibility; Biden used active voice when referring to [Vice President Dick] Cheney and [President] Bush; Palin countered with passive deflections."
Newspapers are typically written at a 6th grade level, depending, of course, on the cage-liner in question. Therefore, what we have here are two intellectual snobs straight out of the ivory tower, with the Republican being the snottiest. How dare these egg-heads give our intellects even the slightest challenge?!




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  14:38:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

I wonder where the reaction is, from the rightwing, on Palin's removal of the "strict construction" plank is?

She said in the debate that the Constitution was "flexible" in defining the role of VP. In fact, the Constitution is quite clear, and Palin's interpretation is liberal in the extreme.

I guess the hardcore rightwingers missed that in their orgy of celebrating the fact she didn't have a Palin moment in the debate.

I guess this means we won't be hearing any more of the "strict constructionist judge" talk from republicans, at least for the rest of this campaign. Good!


The NeoCon Right showed their contempt for both "strict constructionism" and "states' rights" when they got their Supremes to make George II the Prez back in 2000. These were never really principles to them, only convenient slogans under which to push their agenda.

A growing Federal power? It's all good to the NeoCons when it entails spying upon our own citizens (aside from themselves), torturing foreign suspects, or trying to enforce a "strict constructionist" Ten Commandments theocracy. States' rights was fine with the Right when it was a defense of state Jim Crow segregation laws, but it became anathema when it meant letting votes be recounted in a particular swing state.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 10/04/2008 14:47:23
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  14:59:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

Newspapers are typically written at a 6th grade level, depending, of course, on the cage-liner in question. Therefore, what we have here are two intellectual snobs straight out of the ivory tower, with the Republican being the snottiest. How dare these egg-heads give our intellects even the slightest challenge?!

Damned, arrogant "Oh, look at me, I'm almost as smart as a high school pupil" eighth and ninth grade graduates! They think they're so much better than me.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 10/04/2008 15:00:51
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moakley
SFN Regular

USA
1888 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  15:29:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quite a response that Rich Lowry had to the winking.
I'm sure I'm not the only male in America who, when Palin dropped her first wink, sat up a little straighter on the couch and said, "Hey, I think she just winked at me." And her smile. By the end, when she clearly knew she was doing well, it was so sparkling it was almost mesmerizing. It sent little starbursts through the screen and ricocheting around the living rooms of America. This is a quality that can't be learned; it's either something you have or you don't, and man, she's got it.
As Keith Olbermann pointed out it sounds as if he could have been masterbating.

My reaction was somewhat different. I just thought that her intent, if elected, was to fuck America.

Life is good

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that may never be questioned. -Anonymous
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Chippewa
SFN Regular

USA
1496 Posts

Posted - 10/04/2008 :  16:05:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

...For the rest of us, it's vote our conscience and hope for the best, as we hoard canned goods & stockpile ammunition.


The country might be following your advice. One of the companies who's stock has gone up despite the economic crisis is Campbell Soup.


Diversity, independence, innovation and imagination are progressive concepts ultimately alien to the conservative mind.

"TAX AND SPEND" IS GOOD! (TAX: Wealthy corporations who won't go poor even after taxes. SPEND: On public works programs, education, the environment, improvements.)
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