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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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 Posted - 11/08/2008 : 20:34:14
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(The idea for this one came to my via my brother, Lloyd, thanks to his friend, Sharon. My hat tip to both of them!)
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
Edited by - HalfMooner on 11/08/2008 20:42:45
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 20:42:18 [Permalink]
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| Except why Dobson of all people? Why not just put Cindy there? |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 20:45:31 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Except why Dobson of all people? Why not just put Cindy there?
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Because it's my thesis that Dobson was the one who made McCain chose Palin. But indeed it could have been many others. I didn't want to put Cindy McCain into it because I have a certain sympathy for that abused twit.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 23:17:40 [Permalink]
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I am not sure but it is what you mean; but I would agree that Palin's choice was probably made to appease Dobson and other fundies of similar views.
On the other hand; I don't think that he has any contact with McCain during which he might have lobbied for caribou Barbie's inclusion. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 11/08/2008 : 23:37:13 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Simon
I am not sure but it is what you mean; but I would agree that Palin's choice was probably made to appease Dobson and other fundies of similar views.
On the other hand; I don't think that he has any contact with McCain during which he might have lobbied for caribou Barbie's inclusion.
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Dobson, who had opposed and denounced McCain during the primary, immediately did a 180 and endorsed him once McCain selected Palin as his running-mate. That strongly suggests to me that, before Palin's selection, a back-room deal was struck between McCain and Dobson.
No, I can't prove it, but this is politics, not rocket science.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2008 : 00:04:34 [Permalink]
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| Or that whoever convinced McCain to go for Palin did know his fundie... But, certainly, your explanation would explain the absence of a vetting process. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 11/09/2008 : 04:35:15 [Permalink]
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As I've stated before, the Religious Right all but owns the Republican Party these days. As I recall, Reagan cut the initital deal and they have become the strongest and most influential, conservative voice within that party and indeed, the nation. I think it is unlikely that Palin was hand-picked by Dobson; all he had to do, really, is tell McCain to propose somebody, anybody that might be down to their standards for approval. So, after a bit of dither, he chose a very pretty Jesus-freak that fit the bill so nicely that Dobson, et al, was transported with orgasmic joy. The fact that she's a not-too-honest, whackaloon was simply not withstanding. Indeed, as far as they are concerned, whackaloonery is one of her most endearing qualities and honesty has never played much of a part in religion, anyway; especally the commercial kind that Dobson represents.
I've read somewhere that some 64% of Republicans surveyed hope to vote for her for Prez in '12. Pathetic.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
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Simon
SFN Regular
USA
1992 Posts |
Posted - 11/09/2008 : 11:22:42 [Permalink]
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Yeah; I caught ta poll on faux yesterday; 64% of the interviewees wished for her to be candidate in 2012 and 12 wished for Huckabee to be.
So; while it is too early to tell; maybe this election did cement the GOP allegiance to the religious right. It certainly was one of its possible outcomes.
Now the thing is, political parties can be quite autistic. They brew in a closed environment, supporting and often pushing their members further and further ideologically and have trouble realizing that their are in the fringes.
The question is will the general public support such wackaloon candidates?
I don't think so. With all the bitchiness and annoyance we can sometime feel at how the American public behave, I do not think that they subscribe to such a level of obvious craziness.
I truly think that this may lead to the marginalization of the GOP as a fringe party with no real shot in any national elections. Of course, the party still harbour many much more moderate members. Survivors from before the neo-cons take-over for a large part. And I can see these moderate finally leaving the party, either to create their own third party or, at least for a while, joining the democrates.
In the long run; I can see the GOP becoming irrelevant and these moderate-right third party rising to actually becoming the nation second party. |
Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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The Grifters (2008)
