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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/14/2008 :  08:14:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by chaloobi

1. In the home scenario, what do you do when your car breaks down? (and is in the shop)

2. In the work scenario, does your company pay you for the use of your fuel cell? (And what happens when your car breaks down here as well...?)
Your company pays you by ensuring that when you leave work, your car is full of fuel.

When your car breaks down, go get a rental.

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chaloobi
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Posted - 12/14/2008 :  11:00:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by chaloobi

1. In the home scenario, what do you do when your car breaks down? (and is in the shop)

2. In the work scenario, does your company pay you for the use of your fuel cell? (And what happens when your car breaks down here as well...?)
Your company pays you by ensuring that when you leave work, your car is full of fuel.

When your car breaks down, go get a rental.
I typically service my car near work and use the courtesy shuttle.

I don't know a lot about fuel cell technology but I have to assume the fuel cell wears out with use. I'm thinking if it's plugged in generating power for my company all day that there's a lot of use for their benefit. That's what I mean by payment - assuming eventually the cell will have to be replaced and the replacement isn't cheap.

-Chaloobi

Edited by - chaloobi on 12/14/2008 11:01:32
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marfknox
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Posted - 12/14/2008 :  11:20:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Simon wrote:
One psychological hindrance about working at home is... the boss won't know how much you are actually working.
Sure, you can be productive but a)if everybody works from outside, how does the boss know what productivity to expect? b)Even if you are done with the workload of a normal employee, your boss can always find something else to give you to do, just to optimize your higher efficiency.
Companies save a lot of money by having work from home employees; less money to spend on a building and utilities. And consistently, employees who work from home are more productive. Also, I don't see how your boss knows how much you are actually work at work. Unless your boss is standing over your shoulder the whole time, you can be sitting there day dreaming or even dicking around on the Internet or making personal emails to your heart's content. And we know people do screw around at work. Expectations about productivity can be based on comparison to other employees. If Joe and Sam do the same type of work, but Joe gets twice as much work done in the same amount of work hours, it is pretty clear who is more focused and efficient.

Not to mention that it is also better for single parents or families where both parents must work full time.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 12/14/2008 :  12:46:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by chaloobi

I typically service my car near work and use the courtesy shuttle.
A lot of our "typical" behavior would change in a Hydrogen economy. Plus, I'm thinking that for a typical white-collar office, there would be a lot of excess power production in the parking lot. A few absentee cars wouldn't make their owners unable to do their jobs, everyone else's cars would work a teensy bit harder.
I don't know a lot about fuel cell technology but I have to assume the fuel cell wears out with use. I'm thinking if it's plugged in generating power for my company all day that there's a lot of use for their benefit. That's what I mean by payment - assuming eventually the cell will have to be replaced and the replacement isn't cheap.
Well, they'd have to be pretty cheap for everyone to make the switch, unless the government sucks away our tax money to pay for them. In the fuel cells themselves, I don't think there are any moving parts. Pumps and whatnot would be external, even if carried in the car, and they wouldn't need to run if there are pumps in the building doing that work (moving Hydrogen into and through the fuel cells).

Of course, I called them Hydrogen "dreamers" because I don't think there's a good chance of any of this coming about. Mostly because Hydrogen isn't a particularly good energy storage medium, simply because of how much energy it takes to produce it. And then there are the hazards of storing and using it. Every office building would basically have a bomb in its basement in the form of a big, fat Hydrogen pipe coming into it. So don't get the idea that I'm actually advocating this stuff.

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Hittman
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Posted - 12/21/2008 :  17:48:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hittman's Homepage Send Hittman a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First, the highway system caused the urban sprawl


First, Urban Sprawl is a myth. Depending on how you define development, about 5% of our land is developed (and that's leaving out Alaska). Yes, some people get very annoyed that other people want to live in single homes outside of big cities, and have amenities nearby, but I happen to think it's a good thing that people can live as they please where they want.

Europe does very well with it's mass transit, which incidentally was designed based upon what the US once had.

And it's not nearly as spread out as we are. As I said, mass transit can work well where you've got a high population density.

Mass transit has long been discouraged and car ownership encouraged by government policy and the result is awesome waste and inefficiency.


The result is also an awesome amount of personal freedom. Freedom to go where you want, when you want, without having to wait in the snow or the rain and spend three times longer traveling than you would have in your own car.

Right, the solution is flying cars.


Imagine when granny gets behind the wheel of one. We'd have to build our roofs out of plate steel.

I think working at home will become more common over time, although I don't think it will completely replace offices. You still need to have a day, maybe two, where you meet face to face with people to smooth out the kinks and keep things running smoothly.

One of the things I like about working is getting out of the house and interacting with other adults in a professional setting. I wouldn't mind working at home most of the time, but I'd want to go in at least once or twice a week.





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