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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 12/25/2008 : 05:02:57
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This full! Limbaugh's Crazy Conspiracy Theory: Democrats Started The Economic Crisis To Help Elect Obama»
Today, the New York Times had an article about how right-wing talk radio is gearing up to aggressively go after President-elect Obama over the next four years. Rush Limbaugh demonstrated his commitment to this crusade today on his radio show by blaming Democrats — especially Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) — for starting the current economic crisis.
Here's how Limbaugh's conspiracy theory goes: Schumer caused on run on IndyMac bank in California this summer, in order to create a feeling of financial panic amongst the public. Democrats then capitalized on this panic with electoral wins in the White House and Congress. The purpose of gaining this power, according to Limbaugh, was to nationalize U.S. industries:
| How is it that this habitual liar and drug-addicted, sexually impotent popinjay has any audience at all? Are there that many people that stupid?
Well, I suppose there must be, otherwise else he'd be making a living flipping burgers somewhere and likely spitting in the secret sauce. As far as I have observed, he's not qualified for much of anything else.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 12/25/2008 : 07:02:50 [Permalink]
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This time, he's so full of shit, almost nobody but the increasingly marginalized and fascistic GOP is listening. About the closest to the truth that Rash Limpbone comes is in blaming Chuck Schumer for the run on the IndyMac bank, by blowing the whistle on them. But that was like exposing any other Ponzi scheme: It does trigger a panic in which many lose money, but the sooner it's done, the smaller the losses. The panic itself is inevitable. Better to cut off an infected ear than have to cut off an infected head. Schumer was right, and more power to him for his courage.
Rush treats the Subprime Mortgage Bubble as though it were a figment of the Democrats' imagination, a figment that when mentioned caused a panic based upon nothing. Yeah, sure.
The fact is, as in the Great Depression, massive public projects financed on taxing the rich and deficit spending are going to be required to haul the nation out of Bush's ever-growing and deliberately man-made disaster. Limbaugh is preparing the talking points to oppose that prescription, and trying to confuse people about whose Depression this one will be. Nobody but an idiot and/or a NeoCon fanatic will believe Rush.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
6891 Posts |
Posted - 12/25/2008 : 08:22:00 [Permalink]
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So half the country, more or less, will believe him.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 12/25/2008 : 08:31:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
So half the country, more or less, will believe him.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 12/25/2008 : 09:19:52 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by Dude
So half the country, more or less, will believe him.
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Obama has an 85% approval rating right now, and he isn't even president yet. That's more than Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagen, and Carter had at the same point before inauguration. Hell, It may be the most ever.
That leaves only 15% who might be taking Rush seriously... |
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Hittman
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 12/26/2008 : 09:46:22 [Permalink]
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Are there that many people that stupid? |
More than 75% of Americans believe in angels.
The fact is, as in the Great Depression, massive public projects financed on taxing the rich and deficit spending are going to be required to haul the nation out of Bush's ever-growing and deliberately man-made disaster. |
And, just like back then, this will turn the depression into another great depression.
Obama seems bent on being another FDR, which will lead to the same horrible results.
Limbaugh is preparing the talking points to oppose that prescription, and trying to confuse people about whose Depression this one will be. |
It is a prescription that should be opposed, but by smart people. The fact that this moron opposes it too will be used to diminish the argument.
Of course, we can argue all we want, and it won't do any good. Congress, and the president (any president), doesn't give a damn about cogent arguments or the will of the people.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 12/26/2008 : 10:07:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hittman
And, just like back then, this will turn the depression into another great depression. | So if the New Deal hadn't happened four years into the Great Depression, the Depression would have been shorter?[quote]Of course, we can argue all we want, and it won't do any good. Congress, and the president (any president), doesn't give a damn about cogent arguments... | I'd like to hear some cogent arguments against spending our way into recovery. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 12/26/2008 : 11:26:47 [Permalink]
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Hittman, I'd love to hear those arguments, too. And I don't assume you are full of shit like Limbaugh.
Keynesian economics is what we're talking about here; getting money to those without employment in order to boot-strap the economy. My opinion is that's the best medicine in a depression. One part of it that goes beyond mere economics is that giving unemployed people jobs boosts national morale, and counters political extremism. Indeed, political extremism is what grew in many countries during Depression of the 1930's, which was a major cause of WWII.
Without the New Deal, I firmly believe the USA would have had political chaos, if not a coup or a revolution.
So far here, the argument is whether or not this will work. Nobody here is thus far saying that bottom-up stimulus is communist or socialist. Indeed, it is quite mild compared to that. Marxist policy is to seize the means of production, primarily the strongest industries. FDR's Works Progress Administration and the Civil Conservation Corps largely did work such as building roads, bridges, dams, National Park improvements, and other infrastructure, work that was otherwise not going to get done at all by wounded private enterprise, or by contractors working for states which could no longer budget such funds. In contemporary terms, rebuilding Louisiana's hurricane defenses, building alternative power generation, and improving schools might be good ideas for a new "WPA."
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Tim
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 12/27/2008 : 01:06:57 [Permalink]
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Really, Filthy, Limbag's not that bad. He just saw how successful Steven Colbert was and wanted to jump on the bandwagon of the comically absurd. After all, no one could be that stupid....Could they?
Originally posted byHalfmooner Without the New Deal, I firmly believe the USA would have had political chaos, if not a coup or a revolution. |
You know, maybe all these recent attacks on the New Deal are revenge for all of the perceived failures of the supply-siders? Nah, just wild-eyed speculation on my part. |
"We got an issue in America. Too many good docs are gettin' out of business. Too many OB/GYNs aren't able to practice their -- their love with women all across this country." Dubya in Poplar Bluff, Missouri, 9/6/2004
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 12/27/2008 : 13:24:54 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Tim
Really, Filthy, Limbag's not that bad. He just saw how successful Steven Colbert was and wanted to jump on the bandwagon of the comically absurd. After all, no one could be that stupid....Could they?
Originally posted byHalfmooner Without the New Deal, I firmly believe the USA would have had political chaos, if not a coup or a revolution. |
You know, maybe all these recent attacks on the New Deal are revenge for all of the perceived failures of the supply-siders? Nah, just wild-eyed speculation on my part.
| Sure they could, and are. RNC candidate defends distribution of 'Barack the Magic Negro'Nick Cargo
Published: Friday December 26, 2008
Update below: GOP chairman Duncan 'appalled' by 'Magic Negro' song
A candidate for Chairman of the Republican National Committee has defended a song containing a racially insensitive term as mere satire, The Hill reported.
Tennessee Republican John "Chip" Saltsman, former manager for Mike Huckabee's 2008 presidential campaign, included a 41-track CD by conservative satirist Paul Shanklin with a recent greeting to RNC members. Included on the disc was a musical parody of "Puff the Magic Dragon" entitled "Barack the Magic Negro," sung by Shanklin imitating black civil rights advocate Rev. Al Sharpton, first played by Rush Limbaugh on his syndicated radio show in March 2007.
Other tracks on the compilation, entitled "We Hate the USA," include "Wright Place, Wrong Pastor," "Love Client #9," "The Star Spanglish Banner" and "John Edwards' Poverty Tour."
| But it's nothing that we haven't already seen. Conservative Republicans, and a few Democrats, tend toward being racist shitbags as well as chickenhawks, emphasis on "chicken," and talk-a-good-fight motormouths. Limbaugh and his slimy ilk are merely the pus oozing from the festering carbuncle on the ass of the body politic. They are to be sneered at from distance, spat upon if the opportunity arises, and punched if they take exception within arm's reach -- alas, unlikely.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 12/27/2008 : 14:21:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by HalfMooner
Originally posted by Dude
So half the country, more or less, will believe him.
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Obama has an 85% approval rating right now, and he isn't even president yet. That's more than Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagen, and Carter had at the same point before inauguration. Hell, It may be the most ever.
That leaves only 15% who might be taking Rush seriously...
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You can get 5% of any population to believe just about anything.
I submit Scientology, the moon landing hoax conspiracy theory, and Pure Investor Ponzi scams as evidence. |
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chefcrsh
Skeptic Friend
Hong Kong
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Posted - 01/04/2009 : 04:50:07 [Permalink]
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To answer the subject line with specificity I only need know exactly how much he weighs. Multiply that by 1 and you have your answer in weight. Volume...anyone know the shit to water (not shinola which is 1 to 1) volume conversion?
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 01/04/2009 : 11:06:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chefcrsh
To answer the subject line with specificity I only need know exactly how much he weighs. Multiply that by 1 and you have your answer in weight. Volume...anyone know the shit to water (not shinola which is 1 to 1) volume conversion?
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 01/22/2009 : 11:51:50 [Permalink]
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How full of shit Is Rush Limbaugh? Even fuller than you thought!
"Something seems strangely off about Rush Limbaugh in his interview with Sean Hannity yesterday on Fox. Of course, there's also the crazy things he says, such as his further explanation of why he hopes Barack Obama's presidency fails:
Hannity: So this raises this question: You are the leading voice of opposition -- conservative. And have defined conservatives for over two decades. You celebrated your twenty years on the air, by the way, congratulations. Coming off a record ratings year for your.
Bu you are a passionate conservative. You've defined conservatives for many people in this country for years. He [Barack Obama] represents the antithesis in terms of his worldview. So then the question becomes, do you want him to succeed?
Limbaugh: No this -- I am so glad that he asked me that question, that you asked me this question. I'll tell you why.
I am hearing many Republicans say that, 'Well, we want him to succeed.' And, uh, prominent Republicans -- "Yes, we want him -- " They have laid down. They have totally -- they're drinking the kool-aid too. They have no guts to stand up for what their beliefs are, because they're afraid of criticism. They're afraid of being called racists. They're afraid of not having gotten with the program.
Now, success can be defined two ways. I said earlier, I don't know about this guy, I really don't. But I've got my suspicions and they're pretty close to convictions, but we're gonna have to wait to see what he does. Now if he turns out to be a Reagan -- if he adds Reagan to his recipe of FDR and Lincoln, and if he does cut some taxes, if he does not eliminate the Bush tax cuts, I would call that success. So yeah, I would hope he would succeed if he acts like Reagan.
But if he's gonna do FDR, if he's gonna do the New New Deal all over, which we will call here the Raw Deal, why would I want him to succeed? Look, he's my president. The fact that he is historic is irrelevant to me now. That matters not at all. If he is going to enact a far-left agenda -- look, I think it's already decided. Two trillion dollars in stimulus. The growth of government.
I think the intent here is to create as many dependent Americans as possible, looking to government as their hope and salvation. If he gets nationalized health care, I mean, it's over. We're never going to roll that back. That's the end of America as we have known it. Because that's then going to set the stage for everything being government owned, operated or provided.
Why would I want that to succeed? I don't believe in that. I know that's not how this country is going to be great in the future, it's not what made this country great. So I shamelessly say no, I want him to fail if his agenda is a far-left collectivism, some people say socialism. As a conservative, heartfelt, why would I want socialism to succeed?
Hannity: You want your country to succeed, and you believe that his views implemented represent a failure, predictable failure. And conservatism would represent predictable success."
Read on, if you've the stomach for it.
Oh yeah, the troupe of clowns, mendicants and buffoons who just left DC to a rousing chorus of, "NA NA, NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY, GOODBYE," has brought the country so much wealth, health and happiness that I just cannot fathom it's grandeur.
How the hell does this insane, really, pigfucker keep an audience? He is no more than a vicious coward armed with a microphone and his own, poisonous bile, hiding in a secure sound booth. He adds nothing to the public discourse, indeed, he detracts from it every time he opens his imbecilic mouth. He is a wet turd in the path to progress; a septic sinkhole where in all that come in contact with him become tainted. He, and his fellow, conservative, and some liberal, pundits are approximately as useful to the country and the world as a bleeding haemorrhoid hanging out of the scabby anus of a sick hyena; my apologies to all hyena-kind. You didn't deserve that....
What's to be done, then? I don't know, but perhaps there'll be a little light coming along. Perhaps and just maybe, his audience will grok they are being played for fools and dial to another, AM motormouth. For better, not worse, 'cause it can't get no worse.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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River Otter
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Posted - 01/22/2009 : 12:11:04 [Permalink]
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I heard about Rush this morning on three different stations. Plain and simple, Rush wants Obama to fail. I hope his listeners hear the pettiness of this.
There was a time that I listened to this Jackass just to find out what the enemy was up to. Over the years I have heard him spout garbage about the environment, SUV's, Evolution, liberals, feminists, ect. Not to mention the ass kissing he has done for Bush and his cronies. Rush is a sore loser with emphasis on loser. I can't even stand to listen to him anymore. |
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crusadex
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Posted - 02/13/2009 : 09:35:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
This full! Limbaugh's Crazy Conspiracy Theory: Democrats Started The Economic Crisis To Help Elect Obama»
Today, the New York Times had an article about how right-wing talk radio is gearing up to aggressively go after President-elect Obama over the next four years. Rush Limbaugh demonstrated his commitment to this crusade today on his radio show by blaming Democrats — especially Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) — for starting the current economic crisis.
Here's how Limbaugh's conspiracy theory goes: Schumer caused on run on IndyMac bank in California this summer, in order to create a feeling of financial panic amongst the public. Democrats then capitalized on this panic with electoral wins in the White House and Congress. The purpose of gaining this power, according to Limbaugh, was to nationalize U.S. industries:
| How is it that this habitual liar and drug-addicted, sexually impotent popinjay has any audience at all? Are there that many people that stupid?
Well, I suppose there must be, otherwise else he'd be making a living flipping burgers somewhere and likely spitting in the secret sauce. As far as I have observed, he's not qualified for much of anything else.
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Ok so you proved that you can slander.Props! I don't know if Dems caused the economy to fail,you can rest assured that many didn't help.A failing economy fits well with their message and goals.It is a common attitude among many DC liberals that the current system has to fail completely in order for the new dem system to be implimented(trust me i've many conversations with various people in DC about this). Ecomony crashes,Dems seek funding for everything under the sun.Funding give control.Even Obama has stated many times,"if they don't do what we ask we don't give them the money".The stim package will extend the reach of the fed much farther than it is today. Obama is succeeding in doing what socialist in america have failed to do since the early 1900's.I believe the failed mostly becuase of the Nazi's and then the Communist governments.It is much easier to contrast what we are doing when you can still remeber what they did and how they did it.
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