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filthy
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Posted - 02/07/2009 :  05:56:03  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If so, it's damned well nigh on to time they did.

Ronald Reagan, a conservative sacred icon and colossal nitwit is being hauled out into the public eye more often, it seems, and not in any sort of a complimentary way.



Congratulations to the 35,000 doomed people who filed new unemployment claims last week — thanks to you unlucky folks, January job losses hit 626,000, the highest unemployment numbers since the Ronald Reagan Recession/Depression of 1982. That was a fun catastrophe. Why doesn't anyone ever talk about Reagan's Depression?

Meanwhile, December's job losses were the biggest since 1945, while job losses in the last quarter of 2008 were the largest since the 1975 recession. Unemployment is up to 7.5%, the highest since the 1992 recession — and it's expected to hit at least 9% this year, while if these weekly corporate announcements of another 100,000 layoffs a week somehow continued through 2009, the Great Depression monstrosity of 25% unemployment will return after a 90-year-long slumber.

In other words, pick your Historical American Financial Catastrophe, and say hello because it's back.

Barack Obama and his team of petty tax cheats are ready for Huge Government Action, of course, and maybe it will work, just like the New Deal!

But nobody (since Hoover, anyway) responded to Financial Catastrophe with quite the disastrous style of our Greatest Communicator, the trickle-down twat Ronald Reagan, an actual imbecile. As the painful recession of 1980 deepened into the actual Depression of 1982, Reagan simply refused to mention it.

So, perhaps we shouldn't be too hard on Bush. Having nothing of his own, when he knuckle-walked into office, he revived not only Reagan's stumbling policies, but re-capped some few of Ronnie's gang of drooling toadies that helped to implement them.

Here's a much less biased history of the whole thing and if you google for it, you'll find sites spitting more venom than either Wonkette or I can come up with (but don't bet on it -- the Wonkster can get pretty rough).

I wonder when, or rather "if" our loyal 5th Estate will pick up on it. Probably "not on your freakin' nelly!" forgive my cynicism. The conservative Republicans owning and running their corporations might not like it and be cross with them if they did.

On a closely related matter, I'm reading that Rupert Murdock's international tabloid conglomeration, including Fox News(?) went in the tank to the tune of some 6.4 billion.





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Mycroft
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:01:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Mycroft a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was watching the Colbert Report a few nights ago and saw an interview with a writer who proclaimed that in some parts of the South there are people who advocate removing the image of Lincoln from Mt Rushmore and putting him on trial posthumously for war crimes.

I guess if those people put their opinion in a blog someone could come along and claim Lincoln's chickens are coming home to roost.
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Posted - 02/08/2009 :  19:59:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Quite likely indeed, albeit one would expect Lincoln's chicken to be actually travelling outward from home as more and more people reject the 'ideals' of the South...

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Posted - 02/11/2009 :  23:03:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Grayven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I reject Lincoln as hero. If he'd let the south go, the rest of this country would have been better off
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filthy
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  05:17:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Mycroft

I was watching the Colbert Report a few nights ago and saw an interview with a writer who proclaimed that in some parts of the South there are people who advocate removing the image of Lincoln from Mt Rushmore and putting him on trial posthumously for war crimes.

I guess if those people put their opinion in a blog someone could come along and claim Lincoln's chickens are coming home to roost.
Nah, Lincoln's chickens came home at Ford's Theator.




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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  06:51:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Grayven

I reject Lincoln as hero. If he'd let the south go, the rest of this country would have been better off

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Simon
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  07:56:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Grayven

I reject Lincoln as hero. If he'd let the south go, the rest of this country would have been better off



Hello Grayven.


Lincoln did some questionable things too from what I read, he was pretty authoritarian and curtailed several freedoms of expression during the war to limit dissent.

He also appointed and supported Sherman's controversial 'Total war' policy.

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Kil
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  08:40:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Simon

Originally posted by Grayven

I reject Lincoln as hero. If he'd let the south go, the rest of this country would have been better off



Hello Grayven.


Lincoln did some questionable things too from what I read, he was pretty authoritarian and curtailed several freedoms of expression during the war to limit dissent.

He also appointed and supported Sherman's controversial 'Total war' policy.
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Grayven
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  19:44:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Grayven a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Seriously, what did the northern states gain by keeping the southern states in the union? Do we even want the deep south today? We could let them start their own country called "Jesusland", and divorce them right now. I don't think I'd miss them. Someone tell me why I should want the old south to be part of my country.

(Edited for grammatical mistake)
Edited by - Grayven on 02/12/2009 19:45:59
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Randy
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  21:09:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
~Hell yeah! All the rest of you dummies are in the outer fringes of my Texas. Why should we Texans keep you morons in the statehood?~
Jeez Grayven, what redneck bigoted turnip truck did you drop out of? How about editing your post for generalization mistakes.
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Simon
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Posted - 02/12/2009 :  21:50:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well; I like New-Orleans quite a bit personally. And there is plenty of good skeptics in Atlanta...

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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