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hholdings
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USA
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 Posted - 02/04/2009 : 08:35:17
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With all of the republican Cabinet appointments, one wonders whether McCain's appointments would have been much different than that of Obama's. With the latest appointment from NH (a very conservative republican), will Obama be able to demand compliance with liberal mandates if the republican is inclined otherwise? I suppose one could partially carry out the more obvious part of the orders and go opposite on the less obvious ones. Should be interesting.
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 08:38:21 [Permalink]
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I presume Obama got assurances from all his Cabinet appointees that they would follow his direction. If any don't, he can fire them, and should.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 09:48:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by hholdings
With all of the republican Cabinet appointments, one wonders whether McCain's appointments would have been much different than that of Obama's. With the latest appointment from NH (a very conservative republican), will Obama be able to demand compliance with liberal mandates if the republican is inclined otherwise? I suppose one could partially carry out the more obvious part of the orders and go opposite on the less obvious ones. Should be interesting.
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I think Obama really is trying to reach across party lines. Most people running for president promise that, but it rarely happens. It might be naive of him to think he can pull off a less partisan presidency. But we will have to wait and see. One obstacle is convincing Democratic House members that they must be a bit less partisan and patient in terms of getting things done that have been on the back burner for a very long time.
Right now, I think he is a bit pissed at the Democrats in the House for adding stuff to the stimulus package that has not much to do with stimulus. The package will be rewritten in the Senate and I am betting that by taking some of the stuff out that doesn't immediately address getting people back to work and such, he will win over some Republicans. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/04/2009 : 20:00:07 [Permalink]
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Just in from The Onion:Politics
Liberals Horrified By Lack Of Inexperience Among Obama Appointees
February 4, 2009 | Issue 45•06
WASHINGTON—Following Barack Obama's appointment to his cabinet of several veteran Clinton administration officials and a number of others with extensive backgrounds in their respective fields, former left-wing supporters of the new president expressed shock and outrage at the combined experience and competence of his choices.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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chaloobi
SFN Regular
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 05:58:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by hholdings
With all of the republican Cabinet appointments, one wonders whether McCain's appointments would have been much different than that of Obama's. With the latest appointment from NH (a very conservative republican), will Obama be able to demand compliance with liberal mandates if the republican is inclined otherwise? I suppose one could partially carry out the more obvious part of the orders and go opposite on the less obvious ones. Should be interesting.
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I think Obama really is trying to reach across party lines. Most people running for president promise that, but it rarely happens. It might be naive of him to think he can pull off a less partisan presidency. But we will have to wait and see. One obstacle is convincing Democratic House members that they must be a bit less partisan and patient in terms of getting things done that have been on the back burner for a very long time.
Right now, I think he is a bit pissed at the Democrats in the House for adding stuff to the stimulus package that has not much to do with stimulus. The package will be rewritten in the Senate and I am betting that by taking some of the stuff out that doesn't immediately address getting people back to work and such, he will win over some Republicans.
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At least in terms of the bottom line, looks like the Senate's adding stuff. I'm hoping they do that low interest mortgage thing. |
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chaloobi
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 06:00:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
Just in from The Onion:Politics
Liberals Horrified By Lack Of Inexperience Among Obama Appointees
February 4, 2009 | Issue 45•06
WASHINGTON—Following Barack Obama's appointment to his cabinet of several veteran Clinton administration officials and a number of others with extensive backgrounds in their respective fields, former left-wing supporters of the new president expressed shock and outrage at the combined experience and competence of his choices.
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Liberals? You'd think the Republicans would have the problem with competant appointees since they made it a point not to do that for eight years. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 17:57:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by chaloobi
Liberals? You'd think the Republicans would have the problem with competant appointees since they made it a point not to do that for eight years. |
I suspect it's a shock to everyone.
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chaloobi
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Posted - 02/05/2009 : 20:05:18 [Permalink]
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| I wonder how this is going to look on the appointee's resumes? I can see the job interview in four years. "So, I see you were a government appointee... Yeah. Ok, don't call us, we'll call you." |
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Grayven
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 20:28:57 [Permalink]
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He might have thought that the "loyal opposition" might have had some useful input, and helped to craft a bill better for the union by supplying some insights he was unfamiliar with. Now he's getting schooled.
I doubt it though. Obama is edjucated enough to know exactly how conservatives think. This reaching out is a ploy for his long term strategy. Once he "gives up on playing nice" (and you will know when this is) angry Obama...the one that got sorta angry over "Stimulous is spending", will emerge. Then he'll not run good things through, and talk some more. |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/12/2009 : 20:48:43 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Grayven
He might have thought that the "loyal opposition" might have had some useful input, and helped to craft a bill better for the union by supplying some insights he was unfamiliar with. Now he's getting schooled.
I doubt it though. Obama is edjucated enough to know exactly how conservatives think. This reaching out is a ploy for his long term strategy. Once he "gives up on playing nice" (and you will know when this is) angry Obama...the one that got sorta angry over "Stimulous is spending", will emerge. Then he'll not run good things through, and talk some more.
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I also suspect Obama's giving the GOP enough rope to hang themselves. And it will be harder this way for them to say they were left out of the process. They were given a seat at the table, but they instead chose to take a dump on the chair.
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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With Obama's appointments you'd think McCain won
