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The Rat
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Posted - 03/29/2009 :  09:21:33  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
One man's overview of the current situation. I would say it's fairly accurate:
http://unlvrebelyell.com/2009/03/19/rest-in-peace-dear-grand-old-party/

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filthy
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Posted - 03/29/2009 :  12:24:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by The Rat

One man's overview of the current situation. I would say it's fairly accurate:
http://unlvrebelyell.com/2009/03/19/rest-in-peace-dear-grand-old-party/
Not much that we didn't already know but a good wrapup nonetheless. I think that it will be a good, long time before the Republicans finally tell the Religious Right to fuck off, and become a proper political party serving the American public again. Until then, they remain mindless Limbaugh ditto-heads unworthy of anything more than performing as shoe-targets.

Thanks for the read!




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Dude
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Posted - 03/29/2009 :  13:54:47   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
from the link:
I have read the documents upon which Cheney justifies these views. They are legal memos from White House lawyers, two stooges named John C. Yoo and Robert J. Delahunty, clearly written from a point of view which pre-supposed the outcome of the argument and set about rationalizing it.
(bolding mine)

Exactly!


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HalfMooner
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Posted - 03/29/2009 :  14:11:25   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I substantially agree with everything in the article.

To go into a bit more detail than Brad Lord-Leutwyler did, the reason we need a strong and honest Republican Party is that the lack of one will lead not to a one-party dictatorship, but to the corruption and fragmentation of the Democratic Party, and inevitably (despite Obama's best intentions) to corruption in how it governs.

Of course another major party aside from the GOP may arise instead to fulfill the role of a Loyal Opposition, one that is legitimately conservative but not captive to prophets and profiteers. At this point everything I see the GOP doing is the opposite of what it needs to do to reform itself and survive. They are setting themselves up for even greater electoral defeats. They are a hag-ridden party, oblivious to the parasitic monkey on their back. When they should be fixing what got them into their current mess, they are instead calling for a bigger and more ferocious monkey.

I think the GOP has until about the end of 2010 to either change or die. My proposed tests for gaging whether the GOP is likely to survive are these:

1. In 2010, all 435 seats House of Representatives seats and at least 36 seats in the Senate will be open to elections. If the the GOP haven't reformed itself into a honest conservative party and stemmed its bleeding by then, it will lose even more seats, guaranteeing a filibuster-proof Democratic supermajority in the Senate, and an even greater supermajority in the House. That would be the penultimate defeat for the GOP.

2. If, even after such a further defeat, there isn't an immediate, obvious and massive sea-change in the GOP, they will truly be doomed. (If it does clean out the NeoCons, it could spring back remarkably fast.)

If by 2010 or early 2011 the GOP hasn't reformed, I would then expect that the honest conservatives of the party would leave in droves to form a replacement party. The broken shell of the GOP that remained in the hands of the NeoCons and their ever crazier allies would become a diminishingly minor neo-fascist party.


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Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/29/2009 14:42:52
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Simon
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USA
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Posted - 03/29/2009 :  14:56:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd expect the GOP's problem to only partly translate during these elections.
They are more local than the presidential were and so the electors will be voting more for the individual candidates than for a particular party.

In fact, I can imagine some people believing that such a comparitivelly better results as meaning that they are, by rallying behind Rush Limbaugh doing the good thing.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. On it everyone you love, everyone you know, everyone you ever heard of, every human being who ever was, lived out their lives. The aggregate of our joy and suffering, thousands of confident religions, ideologies, and economic doctrines, every hunter and forager, every hero and coward, every creator and destroyer of civilization, every king and peasant, every young couple in love, every mother and father, hopeful child, inventor and explorer, every teacher of morals, every corrupt politician, every "superstar," every "supreme leader," every saint and sinner in the history of our species lived there – on a mote of dust suspended in a sunbeam.
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