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Machi4velli
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Posted - 04/27/2009 :  23:12:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I am not surprised, I actually had a similar experience in a high school class (in "Western Civ" no less). In any case, I agree with PZ that the Bible does have some historical/literary value and that its use is not necessarily a negative. Certainly some will use it as an excuse to teach and advocate their religion.

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-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
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Edited by - Machi4velli on 04/27/2009 23:12:23
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HalfMooner
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Posted - 04/28/2009 :  03:34:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Machi4velli

I suppose I would not mind if the argument was referenced in a non-science class if relevant (philosophy, etc).
Plenty of people have pointed out "comparative religion" courses which discuss various religions' creation myths as a counter to the creationists' claims that religion is being unfairly forced out of schools. Of course, those sorts of classes aren't what the creationists mean when they want their prefered religion taught.

No, if you teach about all religions equally, that's persecution of the fundagelicals!
Which is the motivation for all the "America has always been a Christian nation" rhetoric.

So the argument would go:

Science and religion have equally valid viewpoints (except where science contradicts religion: that's persecution) so should be taught side by side. But since America is and always has been a Christian nation (echoes of 1984's "Oceania and East Asia are at war. They have always been at war."), the only valid counterpoint for science must be the Christian creation myth, not the Hindu or Navajo creation myths.


Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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