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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  18:29:32  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This is the central part of a very, very big city.

1. What is its name?

2. Where is it?



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Randy
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  18:49:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Randy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Eh....just a guess....looks a bit grity down there; I'm going to say Cairo, Egypt.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  18:53:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Randy

Eh....just a guess....looks a bit grity down there; I'm going to say Cairo, Egypt.
It does look quite a bit like that, but wrong.


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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  18:55:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hint # 1: This city is -- by far -- the biggest city in the world.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  19:15:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Hint # 1: This city is -- by far -- the biggest city in the world.
Then it's either Mumbai, India, or Altamira, Brazil. Since Mumbai isn't the largest "by far," I'll go with Altamira.

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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  19:17:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by HalfMooner

Hint # 1: This city is -- by far -- the biggest city in the world.
Then it's either Mambai, India or Altamira, Brazil. Since Mumbai isn't the largest "by far," I'll go with Altamira.
Those little cities don't even come close. This city is much, much bigger, and far, far less well-known. (In case you haven't noticed, I'm enjoying this one.)


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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  19:21:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Must be a play on words. I'm not grokking it.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  19:25:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Must be a play on words. I'm not grokking it.
Hint # 2: There is more than one definition of "big," not requiring word trickery.

This is, in its enormity, by orders of magnitude, by very far the biggest city in the world, yet relatively few people outside it even know its name.



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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  20:02:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

Hint # 2: There is more than one definition of "big," not requiring word trickery.

This is, in its enormity, by orders of magnitude, by very far the biggest city in the world, yet relatively few people outside it even know its name.
Sure, what's the most generous city in the world? That's another meaning for "big," but that's just the sort of word trickery I had in mind. When one says "big city," the normal meaning is "large city," either in terms of population or area, and not "Having or exercising considerable authority, control, or influence" (another meaning of "big").

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  20:14:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by HalfMooner

Hint # 2: There is more than one definition of "big," not requiring word trickery.

This is, in its enormity, by orders of magnitude, by very far the biggest city in the world, yet relatively few people outside it even know its name.
Sure, what's the most generous city in the world? That's another meaning for "big," but that's just the sort of word trickery I had in mind. When one says "big city," the normal meaning is "large city," either in terms of population or area, and not "Having or exercising considerable authority, control, or influence" (another meaning of "big").
I agree that a city which claimed to have "big hearts" would be stretching credulity to call itself the "biggest city." I am not cheating in this "What on Earth?" problem. I wholly agree that the last two "large city" examples you gave would be appropriate uses of "big." You are right on track, believe it or not.

This city really is the world's biggest, not in some kind of tricky, underhanded way like your "big hearts" example, but in a way very, very like your last examples. Even if your examples were the only fair definitions of "big city" (and I'm not entirely sure about that), I would not be tricking people with this problem.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  20:32:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I'd never heard of Altamira before, and it's bigger than the US state of Georgia, or the whole country of Tibet. Altamira would cover half of Poland.

If I can be "right on track" with two vastly different data points, then I'm hosed.

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  20:39:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Well, I'd never heard of Altamira before, and it's bigger than the US state of Georgia, or the whole country of Tibet. Altamira would cover half of Poland.

If I can be "right on track" with two vastly different data points, then I'm hosed.
No, I may be hosed. I did not know that about Altamira. The city in this problem is also huge, but is not Altamira. I now realize may be wrong about the biggest, and especially the "orders of magnitude" claim. I will research this now, and place corrections (and further apologies) right here. Meanwhile, the goal of identifying "my" Big City can continue.

Edit: Altamira is not nearly as "big" as the "problem" city. It once was, but is no more, per the articles on both cities in Wiki. On the other hand, several of my superlatives were way off target, such as the "orders of magnitude" part.


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Dave W.
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  20:44:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dang, I was about to post something on the "orders of magnitude" thing, since to be orders of magnitude (plural meaning at least two) larger than Altamira by size, it would be a city nearly the size of Russia. To be orders of magnitude more populous than Mumbai, it would have more people than all of China.

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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  21:04:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hulunbuir, Mongolia. At 160-something% of the area of Altamira, it should top the Wikipedia list I linked to, earlier, but doesn't appear on it at all.

Damn you, Wikifail!

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HalfMooner
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Posted - 06/30/2009 :  21:08:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Hulunbuir, Mongolia. At 160-something% of the area of Altamira, it should top the Wikipedia list I linked to, earlier, but doesn't appear on it at all.

Damn you, Wikifail!
Congrats, Dave! You win, and you rule, despite the Wikigremlins!


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Simon
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Posted - 07/01/2009 :  07:35:39   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Hulunbuir, Mongolia. At 160-something% of the area of Altamira, it should top the Wikipedia list I linked to, earlier, but doesn't appear on it at all.

Damn you, Wikifail!



Interesting how I never heard of the place...

Hmmm, so I guess that Mexico city has lost its seat a while ago?

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