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Dave W.
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 Posted - 08/02/2009 : 22:48:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
I think if God had intended that he would've conveyed this to the father |
And, of course, that leads us to the conclusion that all abortions are ordained by God. If God didn't want all those babies killed, surely He would have told the mothers, at least, right? |
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astropin
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 10:41:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by On fire for Christ
I think if God had intended that he would've conveyed this to the father |
And, of course, that leads us to the conclusion that all abortions are ordained by God. If God didn't want all those babies killed, surely He would have told the mothers, at least, right?
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Well it probably stands that no TRUE Christian has EVER had an abortion. 
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I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 12:58:19 [Permalink]
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That would be flattering of you to say, but I am sure you have laws against child abuse in your country as well. You can not be serious when you are actually defending this very likely mentally ill idiot who chose to talk to his imaginary friend instead of, you know, doing something. |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 13:03:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
I think if God had intended that he would've conveyed this to the father |
Mythical beings that do no exist:
Old Testament god
New Testament god
Allah
Odin
Sol
Zeus
Tooth Fairy
Santa Clause |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 13:10:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
I disagree |
Explain. |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular
Norway
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 13:38:44 [Permalink]
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| oh we're explaining our arguments now? Ok you go first. |
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the_ignored
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 13:49:19 [Permalink]
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He asked you first, you explain first. What did you mean by the OP? Were you being sarcastic?
Are you actually defending the guy who killed his kid through negligence?
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>From: enuffenuff@fastmail.fm
(excerpt follows):
> I'm looking to teach these two bastards a lesson they'll never forget.
> Personal visit by mates of mine. No violence, just a wee little chat.
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> **** has also committed more crimes than you can count with his
> incitement of hatred against a religion. That law came in about 2007
> much to ****'s ignorance. That is fact and his writing will become well
> know as well as him becoming a publicly known icon of hatred.
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> Good luck with that fuckwit. And Reynold, fucking run, and don't stop.
> Disappear would be best as it was you who dared to attack me on my
> illness knowing nothing of the cause. You disgust me and you are top of
> the list boy. Again, no violence. Just regular reminders of who's there
> and visits to see you are behaving. Nothing scary in reality. But I'd
> still disappear if I was you.
What brought that on? this. Original posting here.
Another example of this guy's lunacy here. |
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dglas
Skeptic Friend
Canada
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 13:59:05 [Permalink]
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| I suppose being charged by secular authorities with second degree reckless homicide is a part of gawd's plan. |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 15:47:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by the_ignored
He asked you first, you explain first. What did you mean by the OP? Were you being sarcastic?
Are you actually defending the guy who killed his kid through negligence?
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I'd like you to answer this question as well. Mab thinks you were just being sarcastic, is he correct?
Or are you actually defending this guy who sat and watched his child die an agonizing and torturous death?
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 15:52:59 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
Or are you actually defending this guy who sat and watched his child die an agonizing and torturous death? |
Don't forget "unnecessary." |
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 17:15:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
oh we're explaining our arguments now? Ok you go first.
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What arguments? You just said "I disagree" without saying what you disagreed with, or why. |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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moakley
SFN Regular
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Posted - 08/03/2009 : 19:29:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
oh we're explaining our arguments now? Ok you go first.
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Shouldn't you be answering Kil's questions to your original post? |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/04/2009 : 02:14:21 [Permalink]
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There is absolutely no innocence associated with the parents of that little girl, and I think they got off very lightly. I do not see how anyone could defend them.
This is one of the main reasons I find religion so repugnant. Too often it corrupts the mind and destroys the spirit, and kills a lot of innocent people in the process.
If this incident is an example of "God's will," then it is wrong by any moral standard and I'll have none of it. For after all, can not claims of "God's will" be used to excuse any sort of behavior at all? It certainly can, as history tells us. But we don't need history to tell us that, do we? Even as we speak, it is happening all around the world.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist! 
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pleco
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Posted - 08/04/2009 : 06:10:36 [Permalink]
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I don't understand why the parents or their supporters care about what they are charged with by secular entities. Even if they are terminated, they get their higher reward, right? And their daughter is in heaven now, right? (which begs the question, why did they call an ambulance?) So, they spend a few years in a prison before they go to heaven - big deal!
At least, that would be how I would look at it if I were a True Believer. |
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Wow, this is outrageous
