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 L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud as well as a scumbag!
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filthy
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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  08:40:37  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But we already knew that, didn't we? What we might not have known is the degree of fraud the scumbag got into -- like giving himself an honorary doctorate from a diploma mill he'd bought (or stolen?) from another fraud.
A letter from the bureau of school approvals states: “This institution has never been approved or recognised by this office. Repeated attempts have been made to obtain compliance with the legal requirements. None of these attempts have proved successful.”

The remarkable allegation that Scientologists were suspected of posing as doctors to rid themselves of an inquisitor and evidence against them emerges in a further British telegram.

On May 18, 1977, Louis Sherbourne, of the British Consulate-General in Los Angeles, wrote a confidential message showing how nervous US officials had become of Scientology. “We have now come up against the usual brick wall of missing files and silence, each and every person and organisation treading very warily for fear of a libel or slander action.”

Mr Sherbourne wrote that Sequoia had been founded by “Rev Fr Damian Hough alias Dr Joseph William Hough” in 1939 as a “diploma mill”.

“United States Internal Revenue Services tried hard to obtain firmer evidence but appear to have failed. A recent attempt to resurrect the enquiry resulted in all the papers from 1939 to 1963 being sent to Sacramento to the office of the State Attorney General.

“By ‘an amazing coincidence' the Deputy Attorney General dealing with them was taken ill and after seeing some ‘doctors' was retired ‘due to his mental health'. My very incensed informant in the California Department of Education is convinced that the ‘doctors' were scientologists who hypnotised him into mental ill-health and he feels very bitter but can do nothing about it.”

Read on.....

I really wish a few Scientologist morons would develop some spine and pay us a visit in order to set us straight on their colossal scam, but they won't. They give a whole new definition the the term" "poltroon."




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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  13:48:31   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To be fair, it seems like part of the Scientoogy's control apparatus is to divert all but the most deeply indoctrinated from critical sites.
So there might not be cowardly as much as under control.

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Posted - 08/06/2009 :  16:05:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
L. Ron Hubbard was a fraud as well as a scumbag!


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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  14:34:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Trish a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I still want off their damn mailing list!

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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  14:44:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send bngbuck a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Filthy or maybe Dave.....

From Filthy....
I really wish a few Scientologist morons would develop some spine and pay us a visit in order to set us straight on their colossal scam, but they won't.

Has there ever been a Scientologist visit or post on SFN?

As the kids say, just askin'!
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filthy
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  16:31:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by bngbuck

Filthy or maybe Dave.....

From Filthy....
I really wish a few Scientologist morons would develop some spine and pay us a visit in order to set us straight on their colossal scam, but they won't.

Has there ever been a Scientologist visit or post on SFN?

As the kids say, just askin'!
Not as I can recall. I think it's probable that they are not allowed to visit sites such as ours, where they would surely get eaten alive.




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Dave W.
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  17:24:59   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have little doubt that we've had visits from Scientologists, because we've got "Evolution, Scientology Style," but none have posted anything here in defense of their cult in my memory.

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Simon
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Posted - 08/14/2009 :  20:10:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Simon a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well; Scientology is different from other crazies in that Scientologist are actually actively discouraged by their superior in scientology to go and risk rubbing their fragile faith on skeptical websites.
Only a crack team are 'allowed' to do so. So, obviously, they must be spread pretty thin and probably focus either on sites that concern themselves with Scientology and cults more intensively or on places where they have a higher chance to influence the fence sitters, for example Wiki.


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