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R.Wreck
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 Posted - 08/11/2009 : 15:20:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by filthy
I don't think she's crazy at all. I think she's goal-driven to the point that she'll turn any stone, climb any mountain, tell any lie to acheive that goal.
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Some would say that that is one definition of crazy. |
The foundation of morality is to . . . give up pretending to believe that for which there is no evidence, and repeating unintelligible propositions about things beyond the possibliities of knowledge.
T. H. Huxley
The Cattle Prod of Enlightened Compassion
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bngbuck
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 18:19:51 [Permalink]
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R.Wreck observes:| Some would say that that is one definition of crazy. |
Or certainly obsession, which is commonly defined as a form of mental aberration. Pathological obsession is very frequently associated with exteme irrationality. Correlation? Again, I don't know of experimental or statistical data; but considered, perhaps educated, opinion -- (which is all most of us do when considering subjects on which data is lacking or incomplete) -- certainly seems to appropriately describe her behavior and statements as stupid, ignorant, obsessive and irrational. Does it follow that she is a stupid, ignorant, obsessive and irrational person? No, not necessarily.
But when it looks like a quack, acts like a quacker, and loudly quacks, it's a pretty good guess it is a duck. Doesn't prove it, mind you! You just come away with a strong impression. Mine is that Wright is stunningly stupid, impenetrably ignorant, overwhelmingly obsessed, inexcusably irrational, and bat-shit crazy!
This is utterly erroneous ad feminem blasphemy in a Skepticality forum. But remember, it's just an off-the-top opinion tossed out because of a lack of statistical data to either corroborate or refute whatever Ms. Wright really is in the mind of her mind!! |
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astropin
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 21:46:18 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
Is there some reason beyond the fact that she is totally wrong that we find her to be stupid? It is not so difficult to picture her shooting off accurate data instead of her creationist nonsense is it?
I'm just saying that I find the whole training/conditioning explanation more plausible than saying creationist are just fucking stupid. Blaming their beliefs on native intelligence, or lack of, also leaves us with no recourse. There is no cure for stupid.
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I'm not saying all creationists are stupid.....ignorant sure, but not necessarily stupid.
Now Wendy on the other hand, if not stupid, is a special kind of ignorant |
I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
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Dude
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Posted - 08/11/2009 : 23:36:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by astropin
I'm not saying all creationists are stupid.....ignorant sure, but not necessarily stupid.
Now Wendy on the other hand, if not stupid, is a special kind of ignorant
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Sure, the willfully ignorant are especially bothersome. She is clearly aware that there is a lot of data that contradicts everything she has to say about evolution and that the overwhelming scientific consensus is against her. She remains ignorant by choice, and that definitely qualifies as "special".
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
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bngbuck
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Posted - 08/12/2009 : 12:01:18 [Permalink]
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Dude.....
| She remains ignorant by choice |
Maybe she just can't rub enough neurons together to recognize that there is a choice between being ignorant or informed -- at least for those bright enough to recognize that fact? |
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astropin
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Posted - 08/13/2009 : 10:32:45 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
can't rub enough neurons together
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I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.
You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.
Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 08/13/2009 : 12:11:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
Dude.....
| She remains ignorant by choice |
Maybe she just can't rub enough neurons together to recognize that there is a choice between being ignorant or informed -- at least for those bright enough to recognize that fact?
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Doesn't seem likely to me.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Richard Dawkins interviews Wendy Wright
