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chaloobi
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  07:01:17  Show Profile  Send chaloobi a Yahoo! Message Send chaloobi a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Go to your browser's command line and enter this address:

"www.skepticfriendsnetwork.org"

Found this by accident trying to get back here. Hadn't been around in a while and the site disappeared from my browser history....

-Chaloobi

filthy
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  07:33:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by chaloobi

Go to your browser's command line and enter this address:

"www.skepticfriendsnetwork.org"

Found this by accident trying to get back here. Hadn't been around in a while and the site disappeared from my browser history....
My-my-my. I've seen that one and got a chuckle out of it then, as well.

Incidentally, the 6,000 year old earth is indeed not in the Bible. That nonsense was figured out by one Bishop Ussher from Bible genealogies. Otherwise, he was a reasonable man, for a bishop.

Funny, ain't it? I wonder which of our BANNED is responsible. Jerome, as I recall, has a sense of humor.




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Dude
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  07:46:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, but Jerome isn't that articulate.

The whole page is just some of the same old rehashed apologetics... But the bible really means <insert personal opinion with certainty here>.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  07:56:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It appears that the real target is the Skeptic's Annotated Bible. At least that's who the page calls out.

From the WHOIS information for skepticfriendsnetwork.org:
Registrant Name:Bruce Caley
Registrant Organization:This domain is for sale
And from the WHOIS for bibleintegrity.org:
Registrant Name:Bruce Caley
Registrant Organization:This domain is for sale
The same is true for easywitnessing.org, but the LivesOutLoud.org WHOIS doesn't have the for-sale bit in it.

Sites like recreationcamping.com also redirect to EasyWitnessing, and are also owned by Bruce Caley. One domain tool claims that his email address is associated with 984 different domain names. So what we've got here is a run-of-the-mill domain squatter with dreams of life everlasting.

(By the way, book sites like Barnes and Noble seem to mistakenly give Bruce Caley an editing credit for Biblical Hermeneutics: A Comprehensive Introduction to Interpreting Scripture, but his name's not on the cover, like Bruce Corley's is. I'm thinking it's a typo in their system. Amazon.com list the book correctly. Oddly, Amazon Germany gives the same listing as Barnes and Noble.)

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filthy
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  07:57:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Yeah, but Jerome isn't that articulate.

The whole page is just some of the same old rehashed apologetics... But the bible really means <insert personal opinion with certainty here>.


That one's actually been around for along time. But he could somehow link to it, couldn't he?




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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and Crypto-Communist!

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Dude
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  10:19:26   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by filthy

Originally posted by Dude

Yeah, but Jerome isn't that articulate.

The whole page is just some of the same old rehashed apologetics... But the bible really means <insert personal opinion with certainty here>.


That one's actually been around for along time. But he could somehow link to it, couldn't he?






See Dave_W's above.

But I guess Jerome could do such a thing.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
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filthy
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  12:08:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Originally posted by filthy

Originally posted by Dude

Yeah, but Jerome isn't that articulate.

The whole page is just some of the same old rehashed apologetics... But the bible really means <insert personal opinion with certainty here>.


That one's actually been around for along time. But he could somehow link to it, couldn't he?






See Dave_W's above.

But I guess Jerome could do such a thing.


Dave & I must have posted at almost the same time.

Now I'm womdering why the astute businessman, Mr. Caley, would pick our humble, online frog-squat for his advertisment. There seems no productive purpose, posting third-party evangelism on a skeptic's site.

Of course, since when did evangelists ever need a purpose beyond adding the the noise. Sadly, this specimen is only borderline coherent. Kind'a insulting, when you think about it -- we and our lurkers deserve better.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

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and Crypto-Communist!

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Dude
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  12:47:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Kil and @tomic can probably get that redirect stopped. I'm pretty sure there is some rule or regulation that prevents other people from using your organization's name in a web address without your permission.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Chippewa
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  14:39:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Chippewa's Homepage Send Chippewa a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude


But I guess Jerome could do such a thing.


Maybe, but if true, there would be at least one wrong, prejudiced or misguided pronouncement followed by a row of these:
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/02/2009 :  19:43:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dude

Kil and @tomic can probably get that redirect stopped. I'm pretty sure there is some rule or regulation that prevents other people from using your organization's name in a web address without your permission.
If we could afford lawyers, perhaps we could stop the squatter.
Originally posted by filthy

Now I'm womdering why the astute businessman, Mr. Caley, would pick our humble, online frog-squat for his advertisment. There seems no productive purpose...
It's productive for Mr. Caley's bank account, or he wouldn't be doing it. Buy a boatload of domain names for $8.95 for a year, close to domain names that are already owned and worth a few thousand bucks or more (just from a Google-advertising point-of-view), and you might get one or two takers, covering your initial investment and supplying you with cash for the next year's domain fees. Do it consistently enough and with good guesswork about what domains are going to be cash-heavy but without being able to sic a pack of legal eagles on your ass, and you could probably make a decent living.

If, of course, you don't have an ethical bone in your body, which is why Mr. Caley is clinging to the hope that his God will forgive his sins if he really, really, really believes in Him.

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Ricky
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  15:26:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Ricky an AOL message Send Ricky a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If we could afford lawyers, perhaps we could stop the squatter.


Is that really true? Sure if they set up a similar looking site in attempts to cause people to think that was the SFN, then I see us having a legal case. But I don't know of any laws making similar domains names illegal.

Why continue? Because we must. Because we have the call. Because it is nobler to fight for rationality without winning than to give up in the face of continued defeats. Because whatever true progress humanity makes is through the rationality of the occasional individual and because any one individual we may win for the cause may do more for humanity than a hundred thousand who hug their superstitions to their breast.
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Kil
Evil Skeptic

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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  16:09:33   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ricky

If we could afford lawyers, perhaps we could stop the squatter.


Is that really true? Sure if they set up a similar looking site in attempts to cause people to think that was the SFN, then I see us having a legal case. But I don't know of any laws making similar domains names illegal.
There doesn't have to be a specific law that covers this sort of thing. All we would have to do is show that there was intent to get people to that site through deception at our expense. Also, the name in the URL belongs to us, but doesn't link to us, so that might count as a copyright violation.

But Dave is right. We would have to hire a lawyer to fight it.

Anyone looking for this site will probably just try another way. So I doubt that it's costing us any visits.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  16:57:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Ricky

Is that really true? Sure if they set up a similar looking site in attempts to cause people to think that was the SFN, then I see us having a legal case. But I don't know of any laws making similar domains names illegal.
It's never illegal. We'd need the lawyers to file a civil lawsuit claiming that Mr. Caley using the "skepticfriendsnetwork" domain as he is causes us some sort of harm, which, because we don't make much money from the site, would have to be harm to our reputation. And all we'd be suing for is for Mr. Caley to sell us the domain for whatever he paid for it, instead of whatever he's asking for it.

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