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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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 Posted - 01/08/2010 : 10:09:21 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by matt36
Personal attacks, niggling inconsistency,s drawn out as if they are the core of the issue, personal pride of knowledge displayed as if its a contest. What is this?
I have never said creation is proven. Evolutionists the world over claim evolution is proven time and time again, claimed by such as richard dawkins in his new book. The onus is on you guys to prove this claim and so far none of you have shown the slightest thread of proof. Ive read the comments and the song remains the same. You nit pick, dodge the questions and generally throw up rubbish arguments.
At the end of the day carbon dating has assumptions therefor its not exact science and therefore not proof of anything. So stick to the point and act like adults and prove your claims without sidetracking yourselves. My claim: "Evolution is a lie". Prove me wrong.
Skeptics, yeah right.
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That was your latest post Matt. This is from your first post:
Matt:
Do not let me embarrass you. Think before you write. Oh, and as skeptics, thats a bit of a joke isnt it. What are you actually skeptical about? God yes. Science, no! Science has been proven wrong many times. The bible has never been proven wrong. Not from a geological, historical, scientific or any other medium. Time to be skeptical of the most unreliable. |
So, you opened with insults. And yet when we tried to address the specifics and provided you with rebuttals to your cut and paste arguments, you showed no sign that you read them.
You left the argument about thermodynamics behind, after all that was presented to you, by saying you want to move on. You offered no rebuttal to the arguments against your position (which you probably don't understand anyway, because you just grabbed stuff from the ICR and other dubious sources.) You walked away from it by saying that we don't understand the subject, without making any attempt to show us why that is, or that you do understand it.
Over and over we have tried to explain your misuse of the word "proof" as it relates to science. It still hasn't sunk in.
And yes, in your first post you brought up the bible and it was explained to you why Genesis can't be taken literally without throwing out most of what we know about earth and cosmological sciences. You claimed to have a degree in theology and then demonstrated that you don't even know what Genesis says!
Now you say that we are making a claim, when the accepted science is the overwhelming consensus of actual scientists, which means that the claim that evolution doesn't happen is what needs to be supported. That claim is being made by you. As Mab said, "logic 101."
I could go on. Nothing we say will ever change your mind, but the least you could do is debate honestly.
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Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Hawks
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 01/08/2010 : 10:51:45 [Permalink]
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| I think that matt36 is as confused about the meaning about what an assumption is just as much as most creationists seem to be confused about the meaning of what a theory is. |
METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden! |
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On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Paulos23
Skeptic Friend
USA
446 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2010 : 12:06:36 [Permalink]
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Talk about Creationism may be on the rise, but it rising in popularity doesn't make it correct.
It just slays me that they say there is no evidence for Evolution. |
You can go wrong by being too skeptical as readily as by being too trusting. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -- Aldous Huxley |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 01/29/2010 : 12:42:39 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Paulos23
Talk about Creationism may be on the rise, but it rising in popularity doesn't make it correct.
It just slays me that they say there is no evidence for Evolution.
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Yes, they just baldly deny every bit of evidence, even as it piles up mountainously at a record pace. Logically, Creationism should have been stone dead a hundred years ago. The powerful new evidence from genomic science should have blown away any dust remaining from its corpse.
If a majority of future doctors there are Creationists, it sounds to me that the Brits may have an even bigger problem with evolution denial than does the USA. This is doubtless mainly due to the many Muslims studying there, combined with the recent aping of Christian Creationism by conservative Islam. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 01/29/2010 : 13:12:47 [Permalink]
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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sailingsoul
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Posted - 01/29/2010 : 14:12:30 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Paulos23
Talk about Creationism may be on the rise, but it rising in popularity doesn't make it correct.
It just slays me that they say there is no evidence for Evolution.
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Don't let them get to you Paulos. Yes they do keep repeating "there is no evidence" ,,,, but they are delusional and are in denial about many things, besides the single topic of evolution. It's in there nature and nurture, being brain washed since birth. Like parts of the "BORG" in Star Trek, they're not thinking individuals. Take our "On Fire For Christ" He chose a image of Christ that is clearly false or as I interpret it, delusional. If that image was factual or true, Christ would haven't died on the cross as other Christians believe but would have freed himself as his image shows. Religious people receive comfort accepting and spreading deception. There is no evidence? Yeah, right! Stay in denial then. SS |
There are only two types of religious people, the deceivers and the deceived. SS |
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pleco
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USA
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Posted - 01/29/2010 : 15:11:48 [Permalink]
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OldNick
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
15831 Posts |
Posted - 01/30/2010 : 00:06:20 [Permalink]
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Welcome to Skeptic Friends Network, OldNick!
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“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Dennett answers NY Times on Dawkins' book II
