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sailingsoul
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 Posted - 01/29/2010 : 18:52:56 [Permalink]
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I fully agree with you Dude, about everything you posted. It is very f55ked, what is going on. How does not voting change anything?
There were about 125 million voters on Nov. 2008. There are about 50 million w/o health care in 2008.(both googled). I would think out of 50 million a lot of them don't vote on any regular basis, even if their registered but I have no data. If present politicians were afraid of VOTERS who have no health care voting, I would think they would have it. Again, I can't support my claim. Fundamentalist vote, that's why they get recognition. It is often said voters don't want to "throw away their vote" on a third party runner. I would suggest instead of not voting, vote third party. Politicians do need voters, even if it's only one day a year. They don't waste time or give a damm with those that don't vote. When anyone doesn't vote, politically they don't exist. Just my view.
Dude, not voting only effects you but you have that right.
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 01/29/2010 : 21:29:01 [Permalink]
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Voting for a third party is almost entirely a waste of time. The only reason to do it is to help that party gain a little recognition.
It amounts to voting for the person you least want to win, in terms of the effect of your third party vote.
Yes, you could say that not voting does the same thing, and you'd be right.
But if none of them represent me or are going to take action on issues I am concerned with, I am not going to help them get or retain power.
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Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
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OldNick
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Posted - 01/29/2010 : 21:32:41 [Permalink]
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I think one of the roots of the problem with American politics is its two party system. Such a system can be more prone to extremely slow moving political changes since both repubs and dems need to try to appease corporate sponsors and fringe party seats (blue dog dems and liberal repubs).
The basis for the two party system is constitutional, since due to winner takes all (one mandate voting districts), third parties have a natural tendency to merge or fail (articles to back this up: https://answers.google.com/answers/main?cmd=threadview&id=110950 , http://www.informaworld.com/smpp/content~content=a741594730&db=all). Since this is a stable structure for both dems and repubs this will probably never change.
So basically I'm not too surprised that the 'change' and 'audacity' talk has been numbed due to campaign funding threats (1), seat losses (2) and fear that radical reform will destabilize the economy (resulting in more of 1 and 2). I mainly vote just on local issues and politicians these days (without care for party), and I don't expect too much from the national scene. |
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On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Posted - 01/30/2010 : 11:17:01 [Permalink]
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| well maybe some people value their own beliefs and values above party unity |
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Done with this bullshit
