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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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cantbe323 is so easy to take down, he's not very entertaining. He claims to want a debate, even to the extent of calling me out, then refuses to get down with it. I suspect that he knows what will happen to him if we ever open a thread and clear the dance floor. Hell, with any of us, really -- I'd like to see him get it on with Dave w. 
But I don't care about that so much; I'd like to see him, just once, produce an actual argument -- something we can get our teeth into.
In his debut OP, he claimed that science knows nothing of the human brain. I posted a link demonstrating that science knows a great deal about that oft confused organ. This he promptly waved off without opening the link, and he's been hand-waving ever since. 
So, I've been amusing myself by doing what a skeptic does best: researching stuff. I know perfectly well he won't look at any of it but others might find it interesting.
The man's got no curiosity and that's just sad.
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"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2010 : 10:50:51 [Permalink]
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Dr. Mabuse.....
| He claims to be an engineer, but even a mediocre engineer would have respect for the scientific process. And stupid shit like this only confirms to me that he's a fake, not even an engineer. |
Wiki states:| Engineering is the discipline, art and profession of acquiring and applying technical, scientific, and mathematical knowledge to design and implement materials, structures, machines, devices, systems, and processes that safely realize a desired objective or invention." |
Wiki goes on to define the classical definition of engineering and to define modern permutations.Historically the main Branches of Engineering are categorized as follows:[14][17]
Aerospace engineering - The design of aircraft, spacecraft and related topics.
Chemical engineering - The exploitation of chemical principles in order to carry out large scale chemical process, as well as designing new specialty materials and fuels.
Civil engineering - The design and construction of public and private works, such as infrastructure (roads, railways, water supply and treatment etc.), bridges and buildings.
Electrical engineering - a very broad area that may encompass the design and study of various electrical & electronic systems, such as electrical circuits, generators, motors, electromagnetic/electromechanical devices, electronic devices, electronic circuits, optical fibers, optoelectronic devices, computer systems, telecommunications.
Mechanical engineering - The design of physical or mechanical systems, such as engines, powertrains, kinematic chains, vacuum technology, and vibration isolation equipment.
With the rapid advancement of technology many new fields are gaining prominence and new branches are developing such as materials engineering, computer engineering, software engineering, nanotechnology, tribology, molecular engineering, mechatronics, etc. These new specialties sometimes combine with the traditional fields and form new branches such as mechanical engineering and mechatronics and electrical and computer engineering. A new or emerging area of application will commonly be defined temporarily as a permutation or subset of existing disciplines; there is often gray area as to when a given sub-field becomes large and/or prominent enough to warrant classification as a new "branch."
One key indicator of such emergence is when major universities start establishing departments and programs in the new field.
For each of these fields there exists considerable overlap, especially in the areas of the application of sciences to their disciplines such as physics, chemistry and mathematics. |
cantbe123 probably has a Lionel layout in his basement!
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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 Posted - 02/24/2010 : 15:08:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by bngbuck
cantbe123 probably has a Lionel layout in his basement!
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Hey! Don't knock model railways!
I spent many many hours in my youth constructing and modifying my Märklin H0 model.
I guess my desire to automate the train system and other miniature gear belonging to the model was an integral part in my early intrest and discovering of electrical engineering and electronics.
But if a real electric train represents high voltage, high current, low frequency application of electrical engineering, then today I'm working at the opposite end of the spectrum: the circuit-board I was working on this afternoon was a 3,3V low power reciever working at 2,6 GHz. Go figure...
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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Fripp
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2010 : 16:44:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Paleontology and carbon dating old bones by radioactive isotopes to determine how old they are, are more educated guess science that can't be proven by demonstration, another in a long list of other science theories that are part of our sacred belief culture that can't or won't be questioned, but as long as nobody gets hurt... qua sera.
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The bones themselves are not dated; rather the strata they are found in is. And it is not done with the carbon dating process, but by radiometric dating. >>
As I said in another post, I know just enough science to question what works and what doesn't work to open further debate.
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Please, tell us how radiometric dating is supposed to work and why that assumption is wrong.
Please illuminate us and lay waste to our petty assumptions. I really really REALLY want my limited worldview shaken and torn to pieces. I have no doubt that I will be left speechless.
CAUTION: claiming that there is some undefined "gotcha" in my above request is not permitted. In short, that's a coward's cop out. |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 02/24/2010 : 17:08:29 [Permalink]
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| I'm now convinced that cantbe's only goal here is to disrupt discussion with statements so inane that most real skeptics feel compelled to reply to them. Facts mean nothing to him in his posts. They don't serve his simple purpose. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive. |
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Fripp
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2010 : 17:55:53 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by HalfMooner
I'm now convinced that cantbe's only goal here is to disrupt discussion with statements so inane that most real skeptics feel compelled to reply to them. Facts mean nothing to him in his posts. They don't serve his simple purpose.
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Of course, and it's my mission to be the bane of his existence. This is an entertaining diversion. I'm the IT dept, staff of one, and every meeting I go to adds 3-4 more tasks. The past 2 weeks have been insane. This is nice pressure release.
I brought a doctor's note excusing me from meetings because I'm allergic to them, but they didn't buy it. Maybe it was the signature of "Steve's Doctor". |
"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"
"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"
"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?" |
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bngbuck
SFN Addict
USA
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Posted - 02/24/2010 : 20:54:42 [Permalink]
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Mooner.....
| I'm now convinced that cantbe's only goal here is to disrupt discussion with statements so inane that most real skeptics feel compelled to reply to them. Facts mean nothing to him in his posts. They don't serve his simple purpose. |
And several others, including Kil are convinced he's a troll. Let's see, wiki says:| In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into an emotional response or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion. |
IMHO there is little doubt that this blathering idiot fits the definition to a T.
As I understand the arcane conventions of Internet tradition, Trolls are to be banned when it becomes clear that they are, indeed, Trolls!
However, cantbe123 provides amusement and diversion to some (as in Fripp, above) and opportunity to others, including top management. Also he is a perfect whipping boy for those with anger management problems, and a near perfect foil for showboating and major to minor ego expressions of "notice me"
Personally, all of the above certainly works for me from time to time, and I freely plead guilty to all such transgressions. I wonder what other folks here feel about keeping pinãtas such as 123 around to provide delightful daily opportunities to vent our sadistic urges. I vote keep him as a pet puppy to whip when you just gotta take it out on somebody! He apparently enjoys successfully plying his trade! |
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cantbe323
Suspended
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Posted - 02/25/2010 : 15:28:57 [Permalink]
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I'm now convinced that cantbe's only goal here is to disrupt discussion with statements so inane that most real skeptics feel compelled to reply to them. Facts mean nothing to him in his posts. They don't serve his simple purpose. >>
My take on facts are actual effects you can see, not just what's written in scientific books or scientific theories, and my one and only goal is to raise questions and possible debate on established practices that don't make sense to me. That's all, nothing treasonable.
I'm here to learn, not disrupt, or make any waves, and I would hope that others would feel the same way.
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cantbe323
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Posted - 02/25/2010 : 15:50:26 [Permalink]
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In his debut OP, cantbe claimed that science knows nothing of the human brain. I posted a link demonstrating that science knows a great deal about that oft confused organ. This he promptly waved off without opening the link, and he's been hand-waving ever since. >>
Sounds more like a one-sided eulogy than a debate. Our main difference is that you believe everything scientists write or say, and I believe some scientists theories are questionable, including what they claim to know about the functions of the human brain.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
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14408 Posts |
Posted - 02/25/2010 : 15:59:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
In his debut OP, cantbe claimed that science knows nothing of the human brain. I posted a link demonstrating that science knows a great deal about that oft confused organ. This he promptly waved off without opening the link, and he's been hand-waving ever since. >>
Sounds more like a one-sided eulogy than a debate. Our main difference is that you believe everything scientists write or say, and I believe some scientists theories are questionable, including what they claim to know about the functions of the human brain.
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Then you are more of a fool than I thought. Do you really believe that your unschooled, layman's observations can compare with years of meticulous research by professional scientists?
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2010 : 17:52:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by cantbe323
Our main difference is that you believe everything scientists write or say... |
That's nothing more than a straw-man, personal attack.| ...and I believe some scientists theories are questionable... |
But you've been shown that your questions are irrelevant to the science, and so worthless to any sort of debate, yet you continue on, demonstrating that despite your claim to be here to learn, you are either incapable of learning or you're refusing to participate in good faith. Either way, the rest of us lose nothing by your absence.| ...including what they claim to know about the functions of the human brain. |
You haven't yet articulated even a single claim that scientists make about the functions of the human brain. The claims that you have made about this subject show that you don't know anything about what scientists actually claim. You've been given resources through which you could learn what scientists really claim, but you instead seem content with your fantasies.
If you want to be taken seriously, you could state a claim that scientists actually do make, and then state clearly and explicitly why you think that claim is wrong. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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filthy
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 02/25/2010 : 18:24:24 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by cantbe323
Our main difference is that you believe everything scientists write or say... |
That's nothing more than a straw-man, personal attack.| ...and I believe some scientists theories are questionable... |
But you've been shown that your questions are irrelevant to the science, and so worthless to any sort of debate, yet you continue on, demonstrating that despite your claim to be here to learn, you are either incapable of learning or you're refusing to participate in good faith. Either way, the rest of us lose nothing by your absence.| ...including what they claim to know about the functions of the human brain. |
You haven't yet articulated even a single claim that scientists make about the functions of the human brain. The claims that you have made about this subject show that you don't know anything about what scientists actually claim. You've been given resources through which you could learn what scientists really claim, but you instead seem content with your fantasies.
If you want to be taken seriously, you could state a claim that scientists actually do make, and then state clearly and explicitly why you think that claim is wrong.
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Give it up, Dave. I've been plunkin' that banjo for days and days and received nothing but flat notes for the answer of it.
See, this guy hasn't the faintest idea of how to argue. He insisted that his unsupported word is sufficient for any eventuality, and that ain't hittin' on shit.
Now, there are people on these boards who's unsupported word I'll accept, most of the time, anyway, but I've known then for a long time and found them honest.
I also think he's lying like an old pot-hound on the porch in his profile.
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"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)
"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres
"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude
Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,
and Crypto-Communist!
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