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The Rat
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Posted - 03/29/2010 :  06:55:00  Show Profile  Visit The Rat's Homepage Send The Rat a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I tend to agree with Mr. Blow, the current madness may well be a last gasp.

Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.

You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II

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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2010 :  07:09:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by The Rat

I tend to agree with Mr. Blow, the current madness may well be a last gasp.
The man certainly makes a good case.




"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


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and Crypto-Communist!

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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2010 :  10:13:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, the right has started to eat its own.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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filthy
SFN Die Hard

USA
14408 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2010 :  12:01:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send filthy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Well, the right has started to eat its own.

I'll be happy to pass the mustard. Hell, I'll even give them some home-made habanero salsa to take their minds off just how stale that road-kill actually is.

Edit: Shit that doesn't make sense.
A Few Things That Just Don't Make Sense:
This list is a little more random than usual, but put it all down under "Shit What You Can't Make Heads or Tails Of":






"What luck for rulers that men do not think." -- Adolf Hitler (1889 - 1945)

"If only we could impeach on the basis of criminal stupidity, 90% of the Rethuglicans and half of the Democrats would be thrown out of office." ~~ P.Z. Myres


"The default position of human nature is to punch the other guy in the face and take his stuff." ~~ Dude

Brother Boot Knife of Warm Humanitarianism,

and Crypto-Communist!

Edited by - filthy on 03/29/2010 12:20:01
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HalfMooner
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Philippines
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Posted - 03/29/2010 :  14:57:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I pretty much agree.
The problem is that the country romanticized by the far right hasn’t existed for some time, and its ability to deny that fact grows more dim every day.
I would go further.

The platonic Christian America envisioned by the Teabaggers (which now include the GOP) is a nation that never existed.

In some forms of this astigmatic vision, America was alway mainly white, always spoke English with a country accent, and the few slaves labored happily on plantations, glad to have been evacuated from Africa. Sergent Presley tore down the Berlin Wall on Ronald Reagan's orders, and the Founding Fathers enshrined into the Constitution the right to form religious militias and arm themselves with automatic weapons and pipe bombs.

The raids on the Hutaree armed cult should be received as a call for the Religious Right to get new eyeglass prescriptions. But I have my doubts that many of them desire to see the world as it is.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
Here's a link to Moonscape News, and one to its Archive.
Edited by - HalfMooner on 03/29/2010 15:04:12
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Machi4velli
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USA
854 Posts

Posted - 03/29/2010 :  19:05:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't like what he's apparently suggesting about the rise in gun sales. There is a widespread assumption among gun enthusiasts that President Obama and the Democratic Congress will push legislations that makes it harder for them to buy guns, and Obama has been consistently rated badly by the NRA, even in the state legislature of Illinois.

Radicalization certainly not the entire cause. I would think it's marginal compared to the reasons above, but I have no statistics. Either way, the author has shown nothing in terms of cause by showing the correlation.

Otherwise, I agree with him.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
Edited by - Machi4velli on 03/29/2010 19:06:33
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astropin
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USA
970 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2010 :  07:18:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send astropin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

I don't like what he's apparently suggesting about the rise in gun sales. There is a widespread assumption among gun enthusiasts that President Obama and the Democratic Congress will push legislations that makes it harder for them to buy guns, and Obama has been consistently rated badly by the NRA, even in the state legislature of Illinois.

Radicalization certainly not the entire cause. I would think it's marginal compared to the reasons above, but I have no statistics. Either way, the author has shown nothing in terms of cause by showing the correlation.

Otherwise, I agree with him.


+1

I think "the run on guns" was almost entirely due to peoples fears of loosing that right.

I would rather face a cold reality than delude myself with comforting fantasies.

You are free to believe what you want to believe and I am free to ridicule you for it.

Atheism:
The result of an unbiased and rational search for the truth.

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Dude
SFN Die Hard

USA
6891 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2010 :  09:18:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, increased gun sales are mostly from people thinking the dem congress will enact more bans.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 03/30/2010 :  12:21:45   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Machi4velli

I don't like what he's apparently suggesting about the rise in gun sales. There is a widespread assumption among gun enthusiasts that President Obama and the Democratic Congress will push legislations that makes it harder for them to buy guns, and Obama has been consistently rated badly by the NRA, even in the state legislature of Illinois.

The interesting question is: Is this assumption true?
Or is this just another lie spread by forces who are against Obama, in order to swing voters who care more about their right to own guns, than whether Obama could be a good president?

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
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