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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  04:19:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

And you're right. After much self-reflection, Dave is a fuckwit, not a brain-damaged dweeb.


And I don't like smileys. This was obviously a joke to anyone with a mother that didn't suck the shit off of grackles.

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The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  04:26:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote


There's a smiley, inserted grudgingly.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
5310 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2010 :  04:31:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo



There's a smiley, inserted grudgingly.


But what does it mean, G? Were you kidding?

I was kidding about Dave being a fuckwit, and I was kidding about hating Dave and Kil. The rest of the fuck yous, take as you want, because you will anyway.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  05:08:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo
If this is a thread advising people as to how to engage in protest, then I'm in full agreement.



If we're talking about the incident, Israel had no business sending a fully armed band of elite fighting troops into a cruiser of 600 people and then crying that they were attacked. Fuck them and fuck you. The American that was killed was shot four times in the head and once in the chest. Once injured, they did not rush the injured to get proper medical treatment. They left them die. Fuck you, you little insulting half-witted jerkwad, and all the assholes here that don't like it. Kiss my fat flabby white, smelly, un-self-reflecting hemmorhoidal ass.

Gorgo. Who here is saying that Israel did the right thing?

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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tomk80
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Netherlands
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  05:11:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Originally posted by Gorgo



There's a smiley, inserted grudgingly.


But what does it mean, G? Were you kidding?

I was kidding about Dave being a fuckwit, and I was kidding about hating Dave and Kil. The rest of the fuck yous, take as you want, because you will anyway.

Breath in, breath out Gorgo. Calm down, let the red haze clear from your eyes, wipe the foam off your mouth. Then maybe at some point you can start saying something coherent again.

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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Dave W.
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USA
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  06:20:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

As far as responding to Dave, Dave is just playing Dave games. He's trying to get my goat.
Yeah, that's the only reason I reply to you.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Gorgo
SFN Die Hard

USA
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  06:24:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by tomk80

Originally posted by Gorgo

Originally posted by Gorgo



There's a smiley, inserted grudgingly.


But what does it mean, G? Were you kidding?

I was kidding about Dave being a fuckwit, and I was kidding about hating Dave and Kil. The rest of the fuck yous, take as you want, because you will anyway.

Breath in, breath out Gorgo. Calm down, let the red haze clear from your eyes, wipe the foam off your mouth. Then maybe at some point you can start saying something coherent again.


You're right. It's fun acting like you and the other teenagers here that sit cowering in their grandmother's basements shooting their idiot mouths off. I'm going to be like you all the time, you fucking simp.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



Edited by - Gorgo on 06/11/2010 06:25:06
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Gorgo
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  06:26:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Gorgo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Gorgo

As far as responding to Dave, Dave is just playing Dave games. He's trying to get my goat.
Yeah, that's the only reason I reply to you.


Not the only reason, but certainly one of the reasons. It really might be fun to attempt a conversation with you sometime, but this obviously isn't the way to do it. Thanks for your time. Keep in touch, you know how.

I know the rent is in arrears
The dog has not been fed in years
It's even worse than it appears
But it's alright-
Jerry Garcia
Robert Hunter



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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 06/11/2010 :  07:50:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

Not the only reason, but certainly one of the reasons.
Not even close. What do I care if your goat is gotten or not?

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On fire for Christ
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Norway
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Posted - 06/11/2010 :  11:01:38   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
only you can answer that, Dave

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 06/13/2010 :  16:08:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer
They opened fire on the Isrealis. Opening fire on a military ship is inviting return fire.
This is news to me. What ordonance did the IHH-ship carry? Where does this information come from?

AP reports an allegation (and some video captured by the Isrealis seems to show) stun grenades coming from the ship as well as thrown objects and fire hoses.
When I get the opportunity to watch the link, I'll get back with comments.


IHH ship carried slingshots. Once the Israelis boarded, some of them had their sidearms taken away and were shot.

There were some preliminary reports of small arms fire from the ship.
(emphasis above mine)
For now, as I understand it, Israeli ships attacked the flotilla by initiating a boarding. Are you surprised that some of the Israeli soldiers got disarmed and their weapons used against them? They were aggressors in a criminal act, and got a violent reaction. By saying "Opening fire on a military ship is inviting return fire." is to only tell half the truth. If you attack me armed to your teeth, I'll try to disarm and pacify you if I can't avoid the confrontation. If I then use your weapon against your helicopter to stop your comrades-in-arms is that surprising?
But was any Israeli military ship close enough to even be remotely threatened by small arms fire? All aggressions during the boarding were initiated by the Israelis by the act of boarding.
You made it sound like it was reported that the IHH-crew started the whole thing.



And it is not unusual for powerful nations to stop and board vessels on the open sea for inspection. China, the United States, Great Britian, Isreal, and others have boarded commercial shipping which they percieved approaching their territorial waters in exclusion zones. These interceptions are usually done in iternational waters because there are few repercussions for this type of piracy. In addition, sometimes ships are engaged in international waters which have aboard contraband items (arms smugglers, drug runners, etc.)

If the commercial vessel does not resist, many of these boardings go on without bloodshed.

Both sides have some culpability. The flotilla had a broadcast intention to make landfall in Isreali controlled waters which had been designated a naval exclusion zone. The ships set to repell boarders. The Isrealis did what they always do. Kill a mosquito with a baseball bat.

The flotilla took a provocative step designed to increase tension in the area. The Isrealis overreacted and insisted on inspecting the cargo bound for Gaza to ensure that no items that they deemed contraband. I will grant you that this list is very broad and counterproductive in more than one spot.

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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 06/13/2010 :  16:12:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Gorgo

And you're right. After much self-reflection, Dave is a fuckwit, not a brain-damaged dweeb.


This statement does not support your assertion that the flotilla was blameless in this encounter.

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