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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  08:58:12   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not going to answer the easy question, Bill? How about some harder questions you appear to be neglecting?

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CRUX
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:30:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send CRUX a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by alienist
the term "banged" or "banging" is often used in ways that objectify women. It also brings up more violent imagery.

Then how is it not appropriate, if the context is 'male slave owner raping his female slaves'? The slave owner is definitly objectifying the subjects of his actions.




but was it slaves that were being referred to as getting banged NOW ? use your noggin. try at least.
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justintime
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  09:53:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by CRUX

Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by alienist
the term "banged" or "banging" is often used in ways that objectify women. It also brings up more violent imagery.

Then how is it not appropriate, if the context is 'male slave owner raping his female slaves'? The slave owner is definitly objectifying the subjects of his actions.




but was it slaves that were being referred to as getting banged NOW ? use your noggin. try at least.


CRUX you don't even know where Dr. Mabuse got that idea from. It was from one of my post. So this attack on Dr. Mabuse is unwarranted. Find other remedies for your personal frustration. You may not like what the Dr Mabuse prescribes for you.
Edited by - justintime on 09/27/2011 11:30:27
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marfknox
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Posted - 09/27/2011 :  12:04:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit marfknox's Homepage  Send marfknox an AOL message Send marfknox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
For crying out loud, justintime clearly uses the term "banged" to generically refer to sexual activity. Is it a crass way to refer to it? Sure. So what? I can't see how he intends to say anything sexist. I think his crass use of language is the least of his problems in this thread.

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justintime
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  00:29:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by marfknox

For crying out loud, justintime clearly uses the term "banged" to generically refer to sexual activity. Is it a crass way to refer to it? Sure. So what? I can't see how he intends to say anything sexist. I think his crass use of language is the least of his problems in this thread.

I will be the first to admit. I am not a perfect man. But I am not a sexist as you have correctly deduced. I am also not without charm. The crass I can easily address. You have a smaller target to shoot at I hope.
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Bill scott
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  04:51:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Not going to answer the easy question, Bill? How about some harder questions you appear to be neglecting?



I may answer your question after you answer mine first, Dave. If a homosexual man digs out a pond in his back yard and then the pond is filled with fish from the local river during a flash flood that was created by the Army Corps of Engineers because they opened the local dam to release pressure on the levee, as the reservoir was rather full, and then this homosexual man went out to his pond and caught several of the fish using spear fishing techniques that date back to ancient China only to give the fish to the wild raccoons who live on of the man's property because the local exterminator got permission from him to use his land as a catch and release for such critters would this be a natural or unnatural action? Why?

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  05:41:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott

Originally posted by Dave W.

Not going to answer the easy question, Bill? How about some harder questions you appear to be neglecting?



I may answer your question after you answer mine first, Dave. If a homosexual man digs out a pond in his back yard and then the pond is filled with fish from the local river during a flash flood that was created by the Army Corps of Engineers because they opened the local dam to release pressure on the levee, as the reservoir was rather full, and then this homosexual man went out to his pond and caught several of the fish using spear fishing techniques that date back to ancient China only to give the fish to the wild raccoons who live on of the man's property because the local exterminator got permission from him to use his land as a catch and release for such critters would this be a natural or unnatural action? Why?


Which action? You have listed several.

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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  05:47:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott
... would this be a natural or unnatural action?
Which one of them?

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Bill scott
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  05:51:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dr. Mabuse

Originally posted by Bill scott
... would this be a natural or unnatural action?
Which one of them?



Yes.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Bill scott
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  05:53:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by Bill scott

Originally posted by Dave W.

Not going to answer the easy question, Bill? How about some harder questions you appear to be neglecting?



I may answer your question after you answer mine first, Dave. If a homosexual man digs out a pond in his back yard and then the pond is filled with fish from the local river during a flash flood that was created by the Army Corps of Engineers because they opened the local dam to release pressure on the levee, as the reservoir was rather full, and then this homosexual man went out to his pond and caught several of the fish using spear fishing techniques that date back to ancient China only to give the fish to the wild raccoons who live on of the man's property because the local exterminator got permission from him to use his land as a catch and release for such critters would this be a natural or unnatural action? Why?


Which action? You have listed several.


Take your pick.

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  06:40:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott

I may answer your question after you answer mine first, Dave.
What, do you think you're Hannibal Lecter now, possessing the power to demand a little quid pro quo?
If a homosexual man digs out a pond in his back yard and then the pond is filled with fish from the local river during a flash flood that was created by the Army Corps of Engineers because they opened the local dam to release pressure on the levee, as the reservoir was rather full, and then this homosexual man went out to his pond and caught several of the fish using spear fishing techniques that date back to ancient China only to give the fish to the wild raccoons who live on of the man's property because the local exterminator got permission from him to use his land as a catch and release for such critters would this be a natural or unnatural action?
Mu.
Why?
Because the question should be unasked.

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  07:44:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Bill scott

Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by Bill scott

Originally posted by Dave W.

Not going to answer the easy question, Bill? How about some harder questions you appear to be neglecting?



I may answer your question after you answer mine first, Dave. If a homosexual man digs out a pond in his back yard and then the pond is filled with fish from the local river during a flash flood that was created by the Army Corps of Engineers because they opened the local dam to release pressure on the levee, as the reservoir was rather full, and then this homosexual man went out to his pond and caught several of the fish using spear fishing techniques that date back to ancient China only to give the fish to the wild raccoons who live on of the man's property because the local exterminator got permission from him to use his land as a catch and release for such critters would this be a natural or unnatural action? Why?


Which action? You have listed several.


Take your pick.


OK.

If a homosexual man (natural) digs out a pond (ponds are natural, that man had to make an effort to build one is not-natural) in his back yard and then the pond is filled with fish from the local river during a flash flood (natural) that was created by the Army Corps of Engineers because they opened the local dam (unnatural river maintenance) to release pressure on the levee, as the reservoir was rather full, and then this homosexual man (natural) went out to his pond and caught several of the fish (natural) using spear fishing techniques that date back to ancient China (man's innovation for tool use is both natural and unnatural) only to give the fish to the wild raccoons (decision. Really isn't natural or unnatural) who live on of the man's property because the local exterminator got permission from him to use his land as a catch and release for such critters (unnatural wildlife management)?

There. All answered now.

Now you can answer DaveW's question.

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Bill scott
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  10:25:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer



(ponds are natural, that man had to make an effort to build one is not-natural)


So if a beaver makes an effort to build a dam in an effort to create a pond then this is not-natural as well, correct?

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

Edited by - Bill scott on 09/28/2011 10:42:26
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Bill scott
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  10:45:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer



(unnatural river maintenance)


So if a beaver builds a dam, which causes a flood, then this is (unnatural river maintenance) as well, correct?

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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Bill scott
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Posted - 09/28/2011 :  12:32:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Bill scott a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer




(man's innovation for tool use is both natural and unnatural)

What about when a chimp or an otter use tools? Both natural and unnatural?

"Lets get one thing clear, Bill. Science does make some assumptions." -perrodetokio-

"In the end as skeptics we must realize that there is no real knowledge, there is only what is most reasonable to believe." -Coelacanth-

The fact that humans do science is what causes errors in science. -Dave W.-

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