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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/15/2011 :  20:59:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by Kil

Me and another guy who loves science.
And both of you agnostics. Go figure.
No, they're both Baptists! Or something.

I'm pretty sure Kil just won the thread with that pic. I'll be surprised if Officiant's head doesn't explode.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 09/15/2011 21:00:28
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/15/2011 :  21:48:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by H. Humbert

I'll be surprised if Officiant's head doesn't explode.
Don't forget: ignore what it says, and make shit up (IWISAMSU). For example, Dawkins is obviously gritting his teeth at the psychic pain of having to stand so close to a cowardly agnostic like Kil.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
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Hal
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  05:25:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by H. Humbert

I'll be surprised if Officiant's head doesn't explode.
Don't forget: ignore what it says, and make shit up (IWISAMSU). For example, Dawkins is obviously gritting his teeth at the psychic pain of having to stand so close to a cowardly agnostic like Kil.


It's photoshopped! I can tell by the pseudo-intellectual dilettantes!


Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
Martin Luther King Jr.

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pleco
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  06:51:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
I know it has been a while since I've been actively posting, but didn't there used to be a page limit for threads?

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  06:52:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message
Originally posted by pleco

I know it has been a while since I've been actively posting, but didn't there used to be a page limit for threads?
We imposed it only because longer threads take longer to load. But the delay (at least until a thread hits 45 pages or so) isn't that bad.

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Dude
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  07:03:21   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Dude a Private Message
Originally posted by Officiant

Dear Dude, You said, "The ability to prove reality exists is a question philosophers have struggled with for millennia and no one has been able to answer it."
So it is a trick question and you've been blabbing about it to me for days now. Take your conundrum and start your own forum. Watch the Dawkins youtube above.
It contains a personal message from me to you.


There is nothing "trick" about my question. If you must assume reality exists, then all your conclusions rest on assumptions. If you fail to recognize this, as you do, then you have built your entire worldview on faith. You believe, without evidence, and this makes you irrational.

Doubt about all conclusions is the only rational position, and this is the root of modern agnosticism.

I assume that reality is real, I acknowledge the problem of induction, and therefore am aware that nothing can be stated in universal absolutes. That is why I call myself agnostic. My agnosticism has nothing to do with your idiotic assertion that agnostics are trying to leave the door open for some human described deity, I've already told you a dozen times that I'm strongly atheist with regard to any deity ever described by humans, so are the large majority of agnostics here.

Now, if you can't answer my question, then your only other choice is to admit your error and recognize that your faith is, like all faiths, flawed. You can't be rational if you cling to your faith like some deluded fundamentalist.


Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson

"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin

Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth
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pleco
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  07:21:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message

by Filthy
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Officiant
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:04:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Dear Valiant Dancer, So you are a Wiccan. I knew you were a fruitcake but I didn't know you were that nutty.

Dear Kil, Nice picture of a couple of agnostic pussies. Madalyn O'Hair had bigger balls than both of you.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:24:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
Originally posted by Officiant

Dear Valiant Dancer, So you are a Wiccan. I knew you were a fruitcake but I didn't know you were that nutty.

Dear Kil, Nice picture of a couple of agnostic pussies. Madalyn O'Hair had bigger balls than both of you.


But yet I have far more intellectual integrity than you.

I am also very happy that your uninformed view of my religion reflects the complete lack of research that your other opinions show.

I also love the fact that you continue to cowardly avoid answering any of the critisms of your evidence. It is quite clear that you lost this argument somewhere around page 3. You continue to mentally thrash about and claim victory.

What have you won, Officiant?

Adulations from yourself. And a martyr complex.

It is clear as day why the Canadian Humanists declined to have you as a member.

Good luck in your blind faith.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Falconjudge
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:26:50   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Falconjudge a Private Message
Wiccan isn't ritualistic at all. I don't think they even have any gods. It's like Buddhism, in a way; I've heard it's mostly just about taking care of yourself and your family...
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Kil
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:30:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
Officiant:
Dear Kil, Nice picture of a couple of agnostic pussies. Madalyn O'Hair had bigger balls than both of you.

Well... I guess you at least have some criteria for your appeals to authority. But of course, anyone who is familiar with the Darwin Awards knows that big balls does not equal brains. At least we know where your thoughts come from, anyhow. Tell me. Do you have children? It would be a real disservice to mankind if you have passed your genes on to another generation.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:42:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message
Originally posted by Falconjudge

Wiccan isn't ritualistic at all. I don't think they even have any gods. It's like Buddhism, in a way; I've heard it's mostly just about taking care of yourself and your family...


Not quite.

It has some rituals celebrating the cycle of seasons. It has Gods and Goddesses. The hands-offy kinds. You look to the God/Goddess for the aspect that you want to change within yourself.

Taking care of your friends and family as well as yourself. Recognizing that other's spiritual paths are to be respected.
And self improvement to make ourselves better people.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
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Falconjudge
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:56:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Falconjudge a Private Message
Originally posted by Valiant Dancer

Originally posted by Falconjudge

Wiccan isn't ritualistic at all. I don't think they even have any gods. It's like Buddhism, in a way; I've heard it's mostly just about taking care of yourself and your family...


Not quite.

It has some rituals celebrating the cycle of seasons. It has Gods and Goddesses. The hands-offy kinds. You look to the God/Goddess for the aspect that you want to change within yourself.

Taking care of your friends and family as well as yourself. Recognizing that other's spiritual paths are to be respected.
And self improvement to make ourselves better people.


True, but people have this misconception that it's like some kind of super-pagan, "lets kill some babies" religion. That's just ridiculous.
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Officiant
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  08:58:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Officiant a Private Message
Dear Dude, You wrote, "Now, if you can't answer my question," and "a question philosophers have struggled with for millennia and no one has been able to answer it."
Is this the only tune you can play? You been asking the same goofy question ad nauseam for weeks. No one has answered it for thousands of years. How many more thousands
of years are you going to keep on asking the same unanswerable question??

I believe that religion is the greatest cause of human misery and we should use education to eradicate it.
My cause is to convert the cowardly fence sitting agnostics into brave rational atheists and so remove this deceitful pillar of faith.
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Fripp
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Posted - 09/16/2011 :  09:05:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message
Originally posted by Officiant

My cause is to convert the cowardly fence sitting agnostics into brave rational atheists and so remove this deceitful pillar of faith.


How's that working out for you, on this site alone?

Answer: pretty shitty

Q for you: If you're so "brave", why are you such a gutless turd about supporting your innumerable claims?

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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