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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  09:54:26  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
...with the pages?

Ok, I'll try to be more specific. I need help trying to remember the name and author of a book I recall only vaguely and was hoping somebody here might remember what I'm talking about.

This was a book that came out awhile ago. Maybe somewhere between 5-10 years even. (I'm horrible at gauging the passage of time.) It was by some guy who was considered really smart and had earned a reputation for being a bit of a boy wonder in his youth. I can't remember his field. Physics, maybe. Then he went into seclusion for a time and at the end of it released this massive book. He claimed it was going to revolutionize biology by uncovering underlying patterns for everything from the way leaves grow to how bacteria reproduce. I remember it had a lot to do with fractals, and much of the book was demonstrating the similarities between side-by-side comparisons of nature photos and fractals generated by computer algorithms. I think the cover had a some sort of digitized pattern on it.

Despite the hype and fanboi attention this book received, the ultimate reaction of the scientific community was "meh." I don't remember it being particularly well-received. Then the book sort of faded out of popular discussion.

Can anyone help me remember?


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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:03:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I found it! It's called A New Kind of Science by Stephen Wolfram.

I finally hit upon it by searching Google with the phrase "crank science book, big hype."

Wikipedia says
Many reviewers enjoyed the quality of the book's production and the clear way Wolfram presented many ideas. Even those reviewers who engaged in other criticisms found aspects of the book to be interesting and thought-provoking. On the other hand, many reviewers criticized Wolfram for his lack of modesty, poor editing, lack of mathematical rigor, and the lack of immediate utility of his ideas. Concerning the ultimate importance of the book, a common attitude was that of either skepticism or "wait and see". Many reviewers and the media focused on the use of simple programs (cellular automata in particular) to model nature, rather than the more fundamental idea of systematically exploring the universe of simple programs.
Did anybody read ever this book?


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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Edited by - H. Humbert on 09/19/2011 11:04:56
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Hawks
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:04:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Was it Steven Wolfram and "A New Kind of Science"?

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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:05:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send BigPapaSmurf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
damn it.. I want my search seconds back!

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Hawks
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:05:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Gee, HH. You just made me waste a full 15 seconds of my life.

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H. Humbert
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:06:09   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Hawks

Was it Steven Wolfram and "A New Kind of Science"?
Well done, Hawks. I think I found my answer literally seconds before you posted.

So, do you have any opinions on the book?

P.S. Sorry about wasting your time.


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"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

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Edited by - H. Humbert on 09/19/2011 11:06:39
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Hawks
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:06:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Compare our time-stamps, BigParaSmurf. What is it they say about great minds...?

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Reminds me a bit of when I unfortunately picked up this book: A New Science of Life by Rupert Sheldrake. It's pretty bad - morphic resonance, telepathy, that sort of stuff.

I have not read Wolfram's book. Doesn't sound like I want to either.

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Hawks
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  11:53:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert
So, do you have any opinions on the book?

No, I haven't read it.

P.S. Sorry about wasting your time.
I forgive you.

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sailingsoul
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Posted - 09/19/2011 :  12:10:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I searched on the borders books web site and got zero results every time, based on what you remembered or described H.H.. Time wasted? I don't mind searching for what is there and finding nothing. What I would mind is searching for what is not there and find something. If you get my drift. SS

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Machi4velli
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Posted - 09/21/2011 :  23:34:01   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Mathematica is nice software... sounds like this guy's ego is massive though

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