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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
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Originally posted by Kil
Originally posted by flanagan1000
Yes but can we go back to the post before it. The whole independance day scenario...
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Not me. Others here will no doubt oblige you. But running down rabbit holes is not for me. Rumors, claims lacking evidence and hoaxes are everywhere. Your time on this site would be better spent trying to understand why we poo-poo these sort of claims, rather than spending our time debunking each one. If we did that, that's all we would be doing because there are so many of them, which should tell you something right there. |
flanagan1000, did you catch that?
Just because we can't refute every claim of a myriad of them doesn't mean they're true. |
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podcat
Skeptic Friend
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 00:42:07 [Permalink]
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| Okay, then can any of these kinds of claims be worthy of our time, and if so, how do we tell? |
“In a modern...society, everybody has the absolute right to believe whatever they damn well please, but they don't have the same right to be taken seriously”.
-Barry Williams, co-founder, Australian Skeptics |
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flanagan1000
Banned
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 11:37:52 [Permalink]
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That T.T.S.S person is speaking again, here is what he/she said:
phase one
october 28 2011, keepers of the wisdom of the stars:
"After several meetings, Hunbatz Men, Mayan Daykeeper and Elder Priest of the Mayan Itza Council, and Pedro Pablo Chuc Pech, President of the Mayan Council of Elders, have announced their plans to lead a group of Mayan Elders on a ceremonial pilgrimage that will carry the Thirteen Crystal Skulls from one coast of the United States to the other. The journey will begin in Manhattan on the 27th of October, 2011; it will culminate in Los Angeles on November 11th, 2011."
"[The thirteen crystal skulls] are said to contain information about the history of our planet and the future of mankind. Carved out of pure quartz crystal, and other crystals such as jade, the Skulls generate an energy field that activates human consciousness in a way that expands our perceptions of reality."
[link to wakeup-world.com]
"Those who try to hold tightly to the old system will quickly see there is nothing familiar left to hold to. It will be shocking and so disruptive to some people’s consciousness that they will choose to leave this planet. No one may “survive” the new revelations and changes upon planet Earth unless they release all grasp to every single idea which they formerly held."
[link to kauilapele.wordpress.com]
a peek into what we will soon behold on a global scale...
[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
a peek into the celestial mechanics of grid/consciousness engineering: synchronizing with certain consciousness-oriented planetary configurations, allowing data/energies [e.g. historical trauma] between history's "cycles" to flow and stream...
[link to imageshack.us]
[link to oct282011.com]
the countdown continues... |
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1673173/pg13#27766392
watch for the 'sign'
10 28 |
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1673173/pg13#27766413
it is matters not whether we choose to "believe" or "disbelieve", or view it as "right" or "wrong". it simply will "be." we will all see.
the countdown continues... |
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1673173/pg13#27769027
What is going to happen? |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 12:12:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
What is going to happen?
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What do you think? Seriously, you've linked to enough material now. It's endless. It's untrue. It's pointless. It's boring.
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"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes
"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman
"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie |
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flanagan1000
Banned
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
USA
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 13:29:56 [Permalink]
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I'm with Humbert.
We've wasted enough time with this.
What do you think? |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion |
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flanagan1000
Banned
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 13:48:37 [Permalink]
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| I don't know. Its just that I have seen so much these last few months. I know the internet is full of woo as you said. But I nver knew how crazy it could get. I mean how deep can the rabbit whole get. What are the strangests things you have seen on the internet (with the exception of Timecube) |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26031 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2011 : 16:28:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
But I nver knew how crazy it could get. |
Go read the UncommonDescent blog. Just when you think those guys have hit rock-bottom and can't go any lower, they start digging. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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flanagan1000
Banned
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Posted - 10/23/2011 : 16:56:20 [Permalink]
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26031 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2011 : 17:32:47 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Not important. |
Then you go on believing whatever the hell you want to believe about the nutcases on the Web. UD is just one example out of many in which batshit crazy people given a microphone like the Internet unsurprisingly say stuff that's absolutely bonkers, and when one attempts to engage them rationally, they double-down on their lunacy.
The only reason this crap didn't happen on a daily basis before the Internet is that books cost money to print, and publishers tended to demand a reasonable expectation of making a profit. With extreme nutjobs having audiences numbering in the hundreds, publishers weren't very interested. (Note well, however, that publishing truth isn't in their best interest.) The Internet and e-publishing have removed the profit motive as a filter against craziness. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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flanagan1000
Banned
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
26031 Posts |
Posted - 10/23/2011 : 20:40:23 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Then what about Peter Moon? |
Sky Books is Peter Moon's own publishing company, so he obviously had tons of money to play with.David Icke was a famous sportscaster made more famous by a 1991 interview that had most of Britain mocking him and journalists pestering his kids because Icke called himself "the Son of God" and he made some outlandish "psychic" predictions. His nuttiest books weren't published until he... you can guess, I'm sure... created his own publishing company. His Reptilians didn't see print until four years later.| ...and the rest, counters your argument doesn't it? |
No. Most authors who need help (an independent publishing company) know what audiences they are writing for, and do so. There are plenty of believers out there waiting to believe in all sorts of weird stuff, it's simply a matter of figuring out what they want to read, and then writing it with a minimal competence. They can do this research at new age and psychic conventions that occur all over the world, all year 'round.
But do try to keep up. The reason "The Internet" is even more bugnuts crazy than the two you mentioned explicitly is what I'm talking about. You were wondering where the bottom of the lunacy is. The Internet has ensured that there is no bottom. People can, for free or for very small investments, publish megabytes of their most paranoid, most schizoid ramblings, chock-full of search engine keywords so that with zero advertising, other whack-jobs can find and read it, feed on it, and publish their own even-more-insane proclamations that mention the same people, places and things. The Internet has ensured that this self-reinforcing cycle can take days or weeks instead of the years it used to require. |
- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too. |
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 10/24/2011 : 12:32:06 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I don't know. Its just that I have seen so much these last few months. I know the internet is full of woo as you said. But I nver knew how crazy it could get. I mean how deep can the rabbit whole get. What are the strangests things you have seen on the internet (with the exception of Timecube)
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There's a documentary running on Sy-Fy-channel which documents the exploits of a team of Americans who use a Stargate to travel to other planets. It's named after the team, Stargate SG-1. Their base of operation is Area-52, deep under Chyenne mountains in USA.
The documentary contains some really scary stuff.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
Support American Troops in Iraq:
Send them unarmed civilians for target practice..
Collateralmurder. |
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flanagan1000
Banned
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Posted - 10/24/2011 : 13:00:42 [Permalink]
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Ok something freaky happened. Take a look at the first manual which goes into some sort of telepathy thing.
http://oct282011.com/thesafe/**42.html
Now look at the people who participated in it:
I have tried the Manual #1 today for the first time, and I have to say, I'm surprised!
I tried with my mother. I asked her to choose one of my eyes and keep their gaze on it, avoiding blink. Then I told her to choose a number from 1 to 10 and to keep it in her mind.
We stayed for about 1 minute looking at each other's eye until she scratched his face lol
Then I looked away from her eye and the number 8 came into my mind.
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http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1617353/pg38#27765703
And take a look at the post made by a user called Southern Lighthouse on the entire of page 38 and 39
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1617353/pg38
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1617353/pg39
Really weird in what he/she is saying, take a look at this post:
So I basically suck at riddles, but I have become obsessed with this... so I recruited some help. I emailed the equation to my sister (the math and science brainiac) and when she emailed me the answer- I almost fell out of my chair! Now it's important to note, that I didn't tell her anything about the equation, where I got it or why I needed it. Here's what she sent me:
"So the left side of the equation means the probability of event A occurring given that b occurs so for example if A was a random day of the year and B is a day in october the probability of A occurring during B is 1/31 since there are 31 days in October.
The right side, top part means basically all the things that both A and B encompass. So instead let's make A days in October (any 31 one of them) and B be days in the year. So A upsidedown U B would be 31 because that is what they have in common. Lastly divide that by B (365).
It seems like a pointless equation, mostly showing how they got the left side I think. I'll take the example of october days (a) and days of the year (b) and work through it. The P always is probability
So the probability of having a day of October randomly picked from all the days of the year is 31/365 (or .0849). equals the days that A and B have in common (31) divided by B (365) which is again .0849.
Maybe in a different context that would make since but it just shows how you get the probability of an event occurring if something else is occurring. Hopefully that made sense."
WOW! I could NOT believe what she used to describe this equation to me! I mean come on- the probability of something occurring in Oct?! Really? WOW!
I LOVE THIS THREAD!
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Also check this out that he/she links in the next page, I think its linked to The Quickening nd the whole Mayan calander interpretation by Callermen that is used in The Quickening.
Not dumb, right on the money.
http://www.drboylan.com/appalachianquakes.html
It is also the last day of the fifth night of the universal underworld, a time renown for catastrophic events.
Hey, that's what it said in the really long movie too! It talked quite a bit about the fifth night thing.
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Is a major event going to happen on 28th October?
