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Dave W.
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 Posted - 10/13/2011 : 18:19:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
But books like Red Storm rising tell you from the begining that their work is fiction. |
Really? What page?| Radu is saying that everything in his book is real, that he has discussed these things with Cezar, Massini and the rest, what more could you want? |
"Radu said so" is good enough for you? Are you that gullible? The Bible claims to be true, do you believe everything in it?| Did people like David Icke fake names and characters in their book... |
Don't know. I've never read any of Icke's books.| ...tell me non fiction books that have admitted to making up characters. |
Wow, you really don't get it, do you? If the authors make up characters, then the books are fiction.
Have you read Moby Dick? How about Great Expectations? Both of them are first-person stories ("I did this, then I did that.") which don't explain to the reader that they are fiction. But they are. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 19:10:04 [Permalink]
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| Red Storm Rising is classed as fiction, the author classes it as fiction, Radu is not classing his books as fiction. What part of it do you not get. If your going to make comparisons, use similar books please. Becuase those comparisons are poor. Massini seems to be a real person. |
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Kil
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 19:35:25 [Permalink]
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Non-fiction books make up characters all the time. Lets see.. There was Communion by Whitley Strieber. He made up a bunch of aliens. Said it was true so they put it in non-fiction. Then there's Ramtha. He is channeled by JZ Knight, but supposedly wrote a bunch of books. Also in non-fiction. How about The Third Eye
by Tuesday Lobsang Rampa? That was an auto biography of a kid in the court of the 13th Dalai Lama. He met Yeti's, had psychic powers and everything. Only he was not real. He was made up by a guy who had never even been to Tibet. But hey, the book was sold in non-fiction even though everyone and every thing in the book was a fiction. Early New Age crap. Oh look!. It's still being sold as non-fiction! Even though the guy who wrote it admitted it!
I could go on for a very long time... |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 : 19:46:58 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Red Storm Rising is classed as fiction, the author classes it as fiction, Radu is not classing his books as fiction. What part of it do you not get. |
What part do you not get? The Bible isn't classified as fiction, either, in most bookstores. Is there anything about Red Storm Rising itself which says, "this book is fiction?"| If your going to make comparisons, use similar books please. Becuase those comparisons are poor. |
So you don't think anyone could ever have been fooled into thinking that Moby Dick was real?| Massini seems to be a real person. |
I keep asking you this, and getting no response: where is the evidence? Where is there independent evidence of Massini's existence prior to the publication of Cinamar's books? |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 02:59:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
Non-fiction books make up characters all the time. Lets see.. There was Communion by Whitley Strieber. He made up a bunch of aliens. Said it was true so they put it in non-fiction. Then there's Ramtha. He is channeled by JZ Knight, but supposedly wrote a bunch of books. Also in non-fiction. How about The Third Eye
by Tuesday Lobsang Rampa? That was an auto biography of a kid in the court of the 13th Dalai Lama. He met Yeti's, had psychic powers and everything. Only he was not real. He was made up by a guy who had never even been to Tibet. But hey, the book was sold in non-fiction even though everyone and every thing in the book was a fiction. Early New Age crap. Oh look!. It's still being sold as non-fiction! Even though the guy who wrote it admitted it!
I could go on for a very long time...
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Please do, but its a bit different with this, I mean its how Davud Anderson and Peter Moon play into it, |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 04:18:40 [Permalink]
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Wow. Amazon.com puts Chariots of the Gods in "Professional & Technical > Professional Science > Astronomy & Space Science" and also "History > Ancient."
Even better: The Monuments of Mars by Richard Hoagland (also categorized as "Astronomy & Space Science") includes, as an editorial review, a quote from a fictional character from an entirely different author. But Hoagland is utterly serious about his "work." Could his own publisher have been making fun of him? |
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moakley
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 05:04:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I did watch it,
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But you apparently did not understand it and how it relates to the Moon interview
- Proof by Verbosity: Moon threw out so many claims that it was difficult for me to keep up so I focused on some of the more absured claims.
- Red-Herring: Moon's whole discussion on Radu Cinamar's name even after admitting that the name may well have been made up was nothing more than a distraction from the topic. But it gave him something else to say that made him sound informed and perhaps authoratative. And obviously to you giving more credibility to his other nonsense.
Originally posted by flanagan1000
and yuo know I used to love watching shows like Penn and Teller's Bullshit!. But these only dealt with small things like the Virgin Mary on Toast, homeopathy and the est. Nothinng this big, have you ever seen anything like this, How could Brian Dunning tackkle this, he is just small time.
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The Big Lie: Valiant Dancer has already covered this perfectly. Did you read and understand what he had to say? |
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justintime
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 06:41:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Mocking me is not helping. You know I have just found something that will be the biggest shock to humanity and I don't know how to cope.
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What you discovered was a science fiction which instead of being entertaining has now turned you into a believer of conspiracy theories.
Can you produce a number, a segment of humanity your discovery has shocked? Is the book even on the best seller list?
What has shocked the world was a book written 2 thousand years ago The Bible and more than 1.2 Billion people still find it relevant in their lives.
What has shocked the world is The Da Vinci Code by Dan Brown. The conspiracy theory still lives on.
We have gone through Ancient Pyramid secrets, Alien visits, Free-Masons world secret society, Eastern Mysticism, Western belligerence, time travel, and monkey theories.
Your condition is not unique or new. You just leave people shaking their heads in disbelief. For thinking your choice of fantasy flight is superior than theirs. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 10:57:40 [Permalink]
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| Believe me, 2011 has been a strange year for me. I could go and write a dossier of all the crazy shit I have seen. Things like Thule and Vril societies, triple helix dna and having babies that will be the anti-christ. Horrible things that have really warped my mind and made me sensative to all of this. |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 11:04:57 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Believe me, 2011 has been a strange year for me. I could go and write a dossier of all the crazy shit I have seen. Things like Thule and Vril societies, triple helix dna and having babies that will be the anti-christ. Horrible things that have really warped my mind and made me sensative to all of this.
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You've actually seen these things or read reports about them?
The Weekly World News is no place to get your information. |
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flanagan1000
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 12:32:03 [Permalink]
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As I thought. You have not witnessed this first hand. You have read about it.
The actual group calling themselves the Illuminati were destroyed in Bavaria in the 1780's.
Wow. These guys are unhinged something fierce.
I am reminded of the local legend here of the Hull House Devil Baby.
Never existed. Nice story. People of the time claimed it was true. Had a lot of believers.
It was easy for them. They had just dealt with the curious story of H. H. Holmes. Now that was a real live monster. Even comes with evidence and court proceedings and everything. |
Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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moakley
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 12:34:29 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
No there really are peoplewhp peddle this:
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Peddle is the right word. Which I would have followed with bulloney. Baloney Detection Kit |
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justintime
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 12:50:46 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Believe me, 2011 has been a strange year for me. I could go and write a dossier of all the crazy shit I have seen. Things like Thule and Vril societies, triple helix dna and having babies that will be the anti-christ. Horrible things that have really warped my mind and made me sensative to all of this.
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I can see you are expanding your mind with all this new information. You need to slow down a bit.
Those evil forces are real, so is DNA and the anti-christ.
But they are very dense matter and you are being absorbed by this dense dark matter and turning dense yourself.
Step back a bit and allow some illumination in between.
Do you get headaches? Because if you do and the headaches are recurring. It is a warning those mind expanding experiences are hitting a bottleneck. That is as expanded as it can get.
If it is a mind warp you are experiencing. That may be a good thing. Einstein theory of relativity actually explains why such phenomena happens because of the curvature of space and the speed at which light travel.
You brain might have more cerebral convolutions than the average skeptic.
I can help you with the fear factor. But I need to know if you are left or right handed first. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/14/2011 : 14:14:58 [Permalink]
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I mean of the people involved is just weird, check out this video that she once made, its porrly made but she says that someone sent her classified documents on some sort of Military project. And if you check out her other videos she goes into the whole goverment mind control thing, she once made a video screaming and crying saying her son was sacrificed at bohemian grove.
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Proof of cover up on time travel technology
