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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  12:33:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Where does it say he/she astral travelled to the caves, what about the Romanian sldiers, he/she actually went thre and did not astral travelld there. It is made quite clear that he went to the mountins andmet them in person. Show me where it happened?
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  12:38:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But what about the soldiers admiting it to him/her, he/she did not atraltravel to them to meet them, he/she met in person.
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 10/13/2011 12:38:58
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  12:48:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Where does it say he/she astral travelled to the caves, what about the Romanian sldiers, he/she actually went thre and did not astral travelld there. It is made quite clear that he went to the mountins andmet them in person. Show me where it happened?
Jonette Crowley never saw the caves other than while on a "shamanic journey." Cosmin told her the story written by Radu Cinamar, she believed it, and later on Romanian soldiers were giving the dumb tourist (Jonette) bullshit answers because they're bored (or because they, too, believe the bullshit).

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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  12:49:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But what about the soldiers admiting it to him/her, he/she did not atraltravel to them to meet them, he/she met in person.


Boy, you did not even read your own source.


A blizzard shut down all options of traveling to Transylvania. Undeterred, Cosmin explained that he had prepared a ceremony and a special prayer so we could do the shamanic journey from my apartment in Bucharest. As the wind roared and rain poured, as the lights in the area flickered on and off, we did a special journey into the forgotten tunnels of other, more advanced races. Cosmin, our friends Carmen and Mira, and I each saw and sensed different things, that when pieced together created a full picture of what happened on our journey. It seems that we were successful in clearing out darkness, “reclaiming the records…and the disks of remembrance” and “opening the Seventh Seal or Stargate.” (You can find the transcript of this shamanic journey, ‘Romanian Underworld Initiation’ - Here ).


Wow. Right there it is. Blizzard. Going nowhere. Shamantic journey.

This blew right by you.


“The Masons can journey there too. But they don’t have the codes…the right frequencies”, he added.

“But I do! I went there!” I exclaimed. (Probably not at all a smart thing to admit, I am thinking in retrospect.)

“Can you initiate me with the codes?” the ex-military guy asked me.

I answered, “Someday, if you are ready for it, your soul will give you the initiation. You can’t just ask for it. … Who made the tunnels?”


Some one who claims people can go there but need "special codes" and then a question from the source requesting the codes. (i.e. the source has never been there.) And he did not go to the mountains. He never says that he does. He says he returns to Romania and talks to two alledged ex-Romanian military guys.

The sources are, convieniently anonymous. Not like anyone has ever lied about being in the service for personal gain.

Oh, wait. They have. Multiple times. The US even passed a law against these guys call the Stolen Valor Act of 2005.


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Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 10/13/2011 12:51:34
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  12:53:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But there are too many outsde sources conforming that ateast something is happening over there. There areUS slders in Romania
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justintime
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  12:54:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send justintime a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Originally posted by flanagan1000

I want more pople actually look at these claims and making individual detailed explanaitions for them. Instead of just one wod senances.
But what's in it for us?




A great opportunity to expand your mind like flanagan1000 did. Duh!!!
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  13:22:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But there are too many outsde sources conforming that ateast something is happening over there.
No, there are no outside sources confirming anything. You have only provided evidence that people believe Radu Cinamar's story to be true, not that it is true.
There areUS slders in Romania
Yes, 15 of them as of last December. So what? We've got nearly 80,000 troops spread out over all of Europe.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  13:43:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But what about in the previous years, what about people from more specialiize departments?

And what the hell is monatomic gold, look at this!

A mysterious amphora
Behind the control panel was a square, three meters per side on which was placed an amphora. Its content was probably the most important discovery. This is what Massini wanted for him and the Masson elite. The Amfora contained a very fine white powder. The researchers were dismayed to find that the substance had an unknown crystalline structure of the monatomic gold which is very difficult to obtain especially in a high purity formula.
Massini was informed even before they enter the room of the amphorae existence. The gold powder in its pure form greatly stimulates certain waves and energy exchanges at cellular and neural level. That causes an accelerated process of rejuvenation. Theoretically, a man can live in the same physical body for several thousand years, provided they consume from time to time, a well-defined quantity of monatomic gold powder. This explains many puzzling aspects about the incredible longevity of some important characters and shows the hidden intentions of the global elite Masons.


http://humansarefree.com/2010/11/another-true-history-chapter.html

Oh god.
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 10/13/2011 13:43:57
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Hal
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  13:59:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Hal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000


And what the hell is monatomic gold, look at this!



Sounds like rubbish to me: http://www.scienceforums.net/topic/7061-orbitally-rearranged-monoatomic-elements/


Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  14:03:53   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But what about in the previous years, what about people from more specialiize departments?
I haven't seen anything that doesn't look like a regurgitation of Cinamar's book(s).
And what the hell is monatomic gold...
It's nonsense. Word salad. Monatomic substances cannot form crystals, or even crystalline structures. There is no evidence that anyone has lived longer than 120 years or so. There is no evidence that anything said about that "powder" is true, and good reason to think it's just made-up.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  15:01:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But what about Massini and this freemason conspiracy? What about Bilderberg? Why is it a freemason conspiracy in it, are they trying to get god like powers with these caves, that sounds terrifying.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  15:38:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But what about Massini and this freemason conspiracy? What about Bilderberg? Why is it a freemason conspiracy in it, are they trying to get god like powers with these caves, that sounds terrifying.
What you want is the book: Them by Jon Ronson

In Them, British humorist Jon Ronson relates his misadventures as he engages an assortment of theorists and activists residing on the fringes of the political, religious, and sociological spectrum. His subjects include Omar Bakri Mohammed, the point man for a holy war against Britain (Ronson paints him as a wily buffoon); a hypocritical but engaging Ku Klux Klan leader; participants in the Ruby Ridge and Waco, Texas, battles; the Irish Protestant firebrand Ian Paisley; and David Ickes, who believes that the semi-human descendants of evil extraterrestrial 12-foot-tall lizards walk among us. Despite these characters' disparities, they are bound by a belief in the Bilderberg Group, the "secret rulers of the world." In a final chapter, Ronson manages, with surprising ease, to penetrate these rulers' very lair. He writes with wry, faux-naive wit and eschews didacticism, instead letting his subjects' words and actions speak for themselves.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  17:07:43   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But tis Massini is a reeal person,along with Cezar and the rest. I mean ho many conspiracy theory books tat are trying to tell us trruth make up people, name me one, becuase this Radi is saying that he and Cezar metup with Massini and he tell him this masonic agenda/conspiracy and show us the frieghteening consequences that will happen to us.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  17:30:00   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But tis Massini is a reeal person,along with Cezar and the rest.
Prove it.
I mean ho many conspiracy theory books tat are trying to tell us trruth make up people, name me one...
How do you know it's "trying to tell us the truth?" How?
...becuase this Radi is saying that he and Cezar metup with Massini and he tell him this masonic agenda/conspiracy and show us the frieghteening consequences that will happen to us.
Yes, fiction authors often tell stories. Sometimes stories meant to frighten people, even though they aren't real. If you can't understand that sometimes people write fiction and try to make it sound real, there's no help for you. You'll be blindsided by Red Storm Rising.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/13/2011 :  17:58:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But books like Red Storm rising tell you from the begining that their work is fiction. Radu is saying that everything in his book is real, that he has discussed these things with Cezar, Massini and the rest, what more could you want? Did people like David Icke fake names and characters in their book, tell me non fiction books that have admitted to making up characters.
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