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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/01/2011 :  14:46:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by flanagan1000

Can I ask you a question, have you seen anyone as crazy as that girl, or her friend Val or the Master Mason, becuase it qas quite a shock to meseing this all on youtube.
You've led a very sheltered life, haven't you?


I gues you can say yes. Before this the only time I had saw anybody that couldd be seen as remotly crazy is the person in tthe town centre handing out leaflets talking about how christ is coming back or how they themselves are the second coming of christ.

To be honest I'm still a bit freaked about by the part in this video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2afgnLzZA) where they start talking about Maaster Mason's shelves of talismens and how they are the souls that have been sacrificed and trapped in them. I mean juding by these and the letters, what the fuck have these people being doing for the last few years (that Val girl has known Treee for many years). Have you seen anything this crazy. Are there really communities full of people like this that live together in neighbourhoods and think they can cchannel in demons and have people show off talismaans of the souls that have been sacrificed? Nnever thought this would al be played on Youtube.

Its like New Age people and conspiracy theoriests from hell. How twisted can it get. Maybe its becuase I have lived a bit of a sheltered life and have never seen people like this, at least not with my own eyes instead of the newspapapers.
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 11/01/2011 14:50:02
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 11/01/2011 :  16:45:48   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Excellent. Now, trust us when we say that you need not pay these people any attention. Since you won't risk coming in personal contact with them, the best thing you can do is ignore them.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/01/2011 :  17:31:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know, I know its just, wow. I mean she goes on about black auras, stargates. I have never seen anybody like her on youtube or even more crazier then her.

Like this video, she goes on about how she and Pindar have to have a baby in order for someone called Queen Elizabeth to inhabit. I mean I have seen crazy like Nancy Lieder, but this is just 10 folds whacked out.
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 11/01/2011 :  17:44:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Like this video, she goes on about how she and Pindar have to have a baby in order for someone called Queen Elizabeth to inhabit. I mean I have seen crazy like Nancy Lieder, but this is just 10 folds whacked out.
Exactly why leaving people like this alone. They are either mentally ill, or like in Moon's example out to get you to buy his books. Fictional books.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/01/2011 :  20:35:20   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

I know, I know its just, wow. I mean she goes on about black auras, stargates. I have never seen anybody like her on youtube or even more crazier then her.
Your ignorance of how crazy people can get is not evidence that the crazy people are obsessed with anything real.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  01:19:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok then. How many people like her have you seen? How many even more crazy have you seen?
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Fripp
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  05:53:08   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Ok then. How many people like her have you seen? How many even more crazy have you seen?


chatbot says what?

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  06:08:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by flanagan1000

I know, I know its just, wow. I mean she goes on about black auras, stargates. I have never seen anybody like her on youtube or even more crazier then her.
Your ignorance of how crazy people can get is not evidence that the crazy people are obsessed with anything real.


I just want to add by going back to her blog where sshe copies all the emails and IM cchatsa she had between 2007-2010.

http://sangrailian.blogspot.com/. Its like we have entered the dark side. I mean how many people are involved in this> There is a poster called James Dean that keeps talking as if he is the mythical Pindar, at one point I saw him talking about how he makes his 17 year old lover to heal her.

I mean the amount of disturbing content is insane. I mean how many other people like Val are drawn into her circle. Whhat does this Master Mason actually do, I mean he has a shelf of Talisman that apparently have the souls of those sacrificed. They talk about another spirit called Draco is killed and needsto inhabit a body. I mean how often do peeople think like this in America. Not too mention that this Master Mason buys plane tickets for her to meet him and thinks he has been to Bohemian Grove. That Sangrailian thinks she has been to Bohemian grove and has seen the satanic rituals that go in there.
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  06:31:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by flanagan1000

I know, I know its just, wow. I mean she goes on about black auras, stargates. I have never seen anybody like her on youtube or even more crazier then her.
Your ignorance of how crazy people can get is not evidence that the crazy people are obsessed with anything real.


I just want to add by going back to her blog where sshe copies all the emails and IM cchatsa she had between 2007-2010.

http://sangrailian.blogspot.com/. Its like we have entered the dark side. I mean how many people are involved in this> There is a poster called James Dean that keeps talking as if he is the mythical Pindar, at one point I saw him talking about how he makes his 17 year old lover to heal her.

I mean the amount of disturbing content is insane. I mean how many other people like Val are drawn into her circle. Whhat does this Master Mason actually do, I mean he has a shelf of Talisman that apparently have the souls of those sacrificed. They talk about another spirit called Draco is killed and needsto inhabit a body. I mean how often do peeople think like this in America. Not too mention that this Master Mason buys plane tickets for her to meet him and thinks he has been to Bohemian Grove. That Sangrailian thinks she has been to Bohemian grove and has seen the satanic rituals that go in there.


1) Bohemian Grove is a private club open to very powerful men. They are NOT Satanists nor do they preform Satanic rituals.

2) You would be surprised at how often people think like this in America.

3) Bohemian Grove is a men only club. There are no women present. Sangrailian is a liar or is claiming some sort of "astral projection". In either case, she is wrong.

4) Master Mason makes a lot of claims. Baseless, but he does make them.

5) Talismans are used by various minority religions including Native American belief systems. Voodun alledges soul capture.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  06:36:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I mean are these people rife in America? People who take crystal meth, meet with complete strangers for sex rituals and think that the gates of hell is under their friends house and that they can inhabit shapeshifting reptillian demons in their body and write messeages as these alledge demons. I thought you only saw those in horror movies.
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 11/02/2011 06:37:18
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  06:43:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

I mean are these people rife in America?
No. You're amplifying the craziness by focusing on it.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  07:25:06   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
What does that mean?

Have you ever seen movies such as Evild Dead or The Ninth Gate? Stories about rare books that summon evil spirits. This remind me of that. Secret orders that practise occult rituals. People who believe that they can open gates to the underworld. Thats what this all reminds me off. It feels so strange. How many people actually believe this? (Such as Sangrailian and Master Mason), you know pages like this http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONOLATRY.html
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 11/02/2011 07:26:38
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  07:44:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

What does that mean?

Have you ever seen movies such as Evild Dead or The Ninth Gate? Stories about rare books that summon evil spirits. This remind me of that. Secret orders that practise occult rituals. People who believe that they can open gates to the underworld. Thats what this all reminds me off. It feels so strange. How many people actually believe this? (Such as Sangrailian and Master Mason), you know pages like this http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/DEMONOLATRY.html


Seen both of them. Rented em for a buck. Still feel ripped off.

It is a small minority.

Occult isn't a scary-bugaboo as you might think.

People who believe that they can open gates to the underworld? Yep. They really can't but they think they can.

Remember, you also have a subculture of Evangelical Christians who will set up sites like these to manufacture a panic for their own purposes. (Mostly to get money)

It costs less than $100 to set up a website. Some whackjob with a spare $100 and some free time can whip up some really mind boggling fiction. And then there are the free blogging sites.

You are amplifying the craziness by emotionally reacting to the bugfucking crazy concepts and requesting that we research it for you.

Ask yourself a few questions next time you read something like this.

1) What evidence do they present that I can look at to judge for myself?

2) What peer reviewed journal have they been published in?

3) What is their background?

4) Why should I believe this?

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  08:23:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
SOrry, its just that I'm still reeling over the shock. That sangrailian is involved in a lot of crazy shit, and that was just between 2007-22009. I mean she talks to someone who admits he makes a 17 year old drink his urine. How many communities are like that. Why does this Master Mason think he can channell a reptillian. I mea she obviously has other peole dragged into this judging by this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2afgnLzZA

How many communities are out there. I mean since your Wicca you must have met people who take this one or two steps to far.
Edited by - flanagan1000 on 11/02/2011 08:27:07
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Fripp
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  09:25:07   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Fripp a Private Message  Reply with Quote
chatbot says what?

"What the hell is an Aluminum Falcon?"

"Oh, I'm sorry. I thought my Dark Lord of the Sith could protect a small thermal exhaust port that's only 2-meters wide! That thing wasn't even fully paid off yet! You have any idea what this is going to do to my credit?!?!"

"What? Oh, oh, 'just rebuild it'? Oh, real [bleep]ing original. And who's gonna give me a loan, jackhole? You? You got an ATM on that torso LiteBrite?"
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