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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  09:30:42   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

SOrry, its just that I'm still reeling over the shock. That sangrailian is involved in a lot of crazy shit, and that was just between 2007-22009. I mean she talks to someone who admits he makes a 17 year old drink his urine. How many communities are like that. Why does this Master Mason think he can channell a reptillian. I mea she obviously has other peole dragged into this judging by this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-2afgnLzZA

How many communities are out there. I mean since your Wicca you must have met people who take this one or two steps to far.


Why?

Sangrailian CLAIMS to be involved in a lot of wierd shit.

She CLAIMS to talk to someone who CLAIMS they made a 17 year old drink his urine.

Even so, I have also heard these things under the guise of kink. (sexual fetishism)

Master Mason is either pulling off an elaborate leg pull for profit or has got to lay off the psychotropic drugs.

Never met any Wiccans who did this. And I have had personal contact with hundreds of Wiccans and other neopagans. There is some sexual fetishism within the community but none that were imposed by the religion. What two consenting adults do behind closed doors is none of my concern as long as there is no risk of serious injury or death.

When I ran the adult website, I did. Sexual fetishism is not bounded by any religious doctorine.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  10:09:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, ok. I still get a freaky feeling that there are cabal of groups of people that think they are summoning demons/spirits for evil purposes. I mean there are people who want to summon these things to wipe the earth clean arnt there? Remember Jarl Vidar and the Thule society. That group wants to open a stargate in order to let the Annunaki out and wipe out the old aeon and begin a new aoen. Not to mention that Michael Noel Prescott - The Third Prophet (who Sangrailian had a lot of contact with) actually had a baby with a 19 year old, had all of their blood taken to a vrill machine to activate a triple helix and let the baby become some sort of anti-christ.

How many more pople or groups like Master Mason or The Order of the Thule are there out there. Wanting to believe that they can use supernatural means to creat huge earth changes, or believe they can interact with this power (for example having talismans with souls in them as Val explain).
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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  10:13:24   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

How many more pople or groups like Master Mason or The Order of the Thule are there out there. Wanting to believe that they can use supernatural means to creat huge earth changes, or believe they can interact with this power (for example having talismans with souls in them as Val explain).
Over three billion people adhere to Abrahamaic religions in which god allegedly listens to and responds to prayers. Armageddon isn't going to be any picnic, either.

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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  10:25:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

Well, ok. I still get a freaky feeling that there are cabal of groups of people that think they are summoning demons/spirits for evil purposes. I mean there are people who want to summon these things to wipe the earth clean arnt there? Remember Jarl Vidar and the Thule society. That group wants to open a stargate in order to let the Annunaki out and wipe out the old aeon and begin a new aoen. Not to mention that Michael Noel Prescott - The Third Prophet (who Sangrailian had a lot of contact with) actually had a baby with a 19 year old, had all of their blood taken to a vrill machine to activate a triple helix and let the baby become some sort of anti-christ.

How many more pople or groups like Master Mason or The Order of the Thule are there out there. Wanting to believe that they can use supernatural means to creat huge earth changes, or believe they can interact with this power (for example having talismans with souls in them as Val explain).


Link here

Here's a link to how crazy some people can get.

There are very few of them. Very very few of them.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  11:54:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I should have never read those novels or watch those where there is a secret group that wants that one rare book or artifact that gives them ultimate power, or allows them to do the most whacked out things.
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moakley
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  12:27:34   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

I should have never read those novels or watch those where there is a secret group that wants that one rare book or artifact that gives them ultimate power, or allows them to do the most whacked out things.
No. Having read or watched all that you have in and of itself is not all that bad. Being poorly equiped to recognize it as whacked out stuff is the problem. You just need better critical thinking skills, better tools to recognize whacked out stuff. I'd recommend that the next book you read is The Demon Haunted World by Carl Sagan.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  13:42:44   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll second moakley.

flan, you can get a used paperback copy of Demon-Haunted World from Amazon UK for a mere £3.35 plus £2.80 shipping.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  13:54:03   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Its just that all the disturbing shit that I have seen and shared on this forum, I wonder if there really are things that are similar to books and movies like The Ninth gate. A battle between a good protagonist and an evil villain. I actually get disturbed by that idea, that there might be a battle going on that will effect humanity link in a comic book, and we don't know about.

Remember Radu Cinemar and Brad Cezar vs Signore Massini - that involves an underground cave that includes monatomic gold that gives immortality, a frieghtening concept if it got in the wrong hands like Massini - http://tinyurl.com/3nafnba .

You might find that stupid annd say its fiction. But I wonder if that is going on in the world. Ift has been discovered is there still a battle going on? I do wonder if something like that or from my last few posts are happening.

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Dave W.
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  14:10:17   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Another suggestion, flan: go seek professional help for your paranoia.

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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  14:11:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And learn how to use www.tinyurl.com

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  14:14:37   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
How good is it, what will it actually teach me?
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  14:54:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here is what I meant, remember the site Lucifer's web? Well there was an old page about Supriem Daviid Rockefeller where they took a set of pictures of him, have a look at this...



How on earth did they manage that, thats what if its what I fear, an actual demon?

http://web.archive.org/web/20100104065059/http://www.lucifersweb.de/html/owl_project.html (You can find two pictres of that, but sometimes they don't load properly)
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moakley
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  15:05:35   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

How good is it, what will it actually teach me?
The Demon Haunted World is an exceptional book. One that I reread every 2-3 years. It will teach you how to recognize the whacked out stuff. And that demons are not real.

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flanagan1000
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  15:09:28   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send flanagan1000 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
But how can I aplly that to stuff in this topicc, that is just batshit more insane then that.
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moakley
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Posted - 11/02/2011 :  15:59:13   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send moakley a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by flanagan1000

But how can I aplly that to stuff in this topicc, that is just batshit more insane then that.
Read the book. Learn. Then you will see that "batshit insane" is just another way of saying "whacked out stuff". But honestly I believe you are enthralled by whacked out stuff and do not think you will ever read the The Demon Haunted World.

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