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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 12:48:34 [Permalink]
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Ignore the pictures from that whatever link they came from, they are not part of thebook for fuck sake!
I'm sobbing with tears in my eyes. I feel down and feel that the world is going to get a huge shock nut no one here is listening. Could you atleast listen to that radio interview. I beg of you, I'm sobbing with tears, please.
Oh my god, oh my god, oh my fucking god! Look at what I also found out, how can fucking ignore all of this!?
In the Carpathians there is a gateway to another universe.
There is a gate towards other dimension in Carpatians
E.H. is not a mysterious or "paranormal" person in appearance or behavior s.Ex engineer, retired in 1988 and was able to fully devote his passion: hiking .
Divorced in 1974, no children,
Everything changed one day in autumn 1990, in Piatra Mare. Lord E.H. visited us and we were told a story but were asked by him to protect his name.
His story is as follows:
"I remember like it was yesterday. It was on 22 September 1990. At 11 o'clock I was on one of my routes on the Great favorite Piatra Seven Stairs. The day was very beautiful, warm, even in the shadow of the forest. At around 11, I had about a half hour to the hut and slowed down, to enjoy the beauty of the landscape.
I started getting lost intentionally, to change something in the trail monotony. My trail climbs to a peak and folded at a time, I saw something bizarre, like a spark to my right, the sun, reflected on an object. I immediately thought that it came from piles of cans and jars left in the forest.
A silly curiosity pushed me to the place; I was convinced that it's a wine bottle thrown away, but I wanted to convince myself. When I first saw it, was somewhere a little glow at about 20 to 30 meters height . I began to climb, but I saw nothing. Obviously, I was in a different angle from the sun.
After a few minutes to climb, I began to ask myself questions; I was in a clearing, I was quite visible, but did not see any object capable of reflecting light. I was about to go on, when I saw... I find it hard to describe.
It was an elliptical shape, vertical, one can identify it. You know what an optical phenomenon called "Fata Morgana" looks like? On the road, the heat from the ground, frequently this phenomenon occurs; the landscape was deformed, moving, as would be seen through a curved glass. Same thing with a deflection at right angles, I saw in front of me. It was behind a tree shape; the rear portion of the trunk was deformed ellipse strange, veiled. If you want another comparison, it resembled more a twisted perspective that you see through gasoline vapors.
I approached and I realized with astonishment that I did not see any material object that can generate such an effect. In that place there was nothing. Nothing that looks like a diaphragm, an elliptical area lying in the air, apparently concave. More amazing was that the rear, the shape.
Ellipse was about 1 meter, 1 meter in diameter and 20 high, that height, and up to 40 inches in the small, wide. The base was about 25-30 inches of soil. Floating. It was perfectly transparent, except the wave phenomenon, the fog, the space behind it. The edges were very smooth, that the phenomenon of impaired optic ends abruptly.
What have I done? I thought it could be any very fine spider web, but I think trying to convince myself that I had in front of me a natural phenomenon, which obviously, as I was convinced it was not. I spent a few moments looking around it and then tried to touch it. Fortunately, a kind of instinct for fear, groundless (as it seemed perfectly harmless) made me take the first branch of a tree down. The first time I touched the edges of the ellipse. The edge had elastic resistance is as if I have clicked on a balloon.
When I moved the branch to the ellipse center, I did not encountered any resistance; went in smoothly, but it was invisible.
It was like a hole and the tip of the branch was totally gone, all the while, we continue to see the scenery reflected back. The branch was about 50 inches long and half gone inside. When I withdrew, I saw with horror that it was no longer than 20 inches long. Part of it had completely disappeared. The end was completely severed, as a high precision saw the other side would have worked. Then I thought what would have happened if it were my hand instead of the branch...
I repeated the operation with other branches, then I tied a rope stone and threw it into the ellipse, the result was the same every time. Any thing that went into that form did not coming back. At that moment I was scared. In addition, it was getting too late and I decided to go on to the cottage. But before I left, for the first time in my life, I made a rude gesture to graze the forest trees. To recognize the place, I marked all the trees in the clearing with a knife. I got to the cabin shortly after noon.
After a hot soup and tea I have restored morale, but the problem continues. I knew the chalet supervisor and I told him all that had happened. The man knew me, so he did not think me crazy. He said he'd never seen anything like that in the woods, but anything is possible and that he would not be surprised if it contained "a new army technology "
As often happens in the mountains, the weather broke suddenly at 15.A, the wind began to blow, it was cool and clear as I was preparing for a storm. I was tired, I decided to stay overnight and talk to the chalet supervisor.
At the evening meal, I was approached by Stephen, the son of the chalet supervisor, a kid of 12 years. I knew him quite well because he came to my table without shyness.
"I heard you speak at lunch with my dad," he said. "you know, I saw the ghost of the woods!"
I started to listen to him and learned that Stefan was with two shepherds when he saw the first ellipse. Curious by nature, he had returned several times to that place. I learned everything from him in shape through at least two distinct phases: when it looks transparent (the condition in which I saw it), it allows the entry of objects. When seen as Stefan once saw it, it becomes white and slightly larger, it works in reverse, that was closed to us and let the other side objects pass through it.
The next morning we left because of very bad weather, I've been through clearing. I returned after two weeks to Piatra Mare. This time I went straight to the cottage, I took Steven and we went to the place. With us came another boy from a nearby sheepfold, one of those who had accompanied Stefan in his promenade through the woods. On the way he told me a story related to the ellipse.
Arriving in the clearing, our disappointment was great: there was no ellipse. It just disappeared. Only the trees marked by me gave me confidence that I was not dreaming.
Throughout the winter I was in Bucharest and gradually took the forest out of my mind. Then, in February 1991, a friend whom I told this story to came to visit me. He was very agitated and showed me a German magazine that had an article similar to the phenomena observed by me. The article mentioning the existence of organizations that study the strange ellipses, ODRG (Open Doors Research Group). I wrote them a letter telling them all that I had seen and heard and, in April, I received a package from them.
I was sent a letter of thanks for the information provided, assuring me that I described a Gate seen on their lists. Along with the letter they sent several materials from which I learned all about the gates opening. I was then in correspondence and all that follows is the result of information received by me.
Forms such as the one seen by me have appeared from time immemorial, they are present, under various descriptions, in many old texts.
In 1962 Barry Roscott , an English engineer, saw a gate during his walks through town around Manchester.The gate remained open for 2 months and allowed Roscott to make more observations and experiments. After this experience the ODRG group was founded, which has many members all over the world.
From 1963 until today. ODRG recorded no less than 238 more [natural]Gates. The Open Gates seem to have been in the U.S. and the latest comes from Russia (18 Gates observed between 1988 and 1995), Poland (3 gates) and Romania (Gate seen by me in Piatra Mare).
On average, a gate remains open between 2 months and one year. There was a link between duration and size. As a door is more likely to have even more time there. Gates that are open for a year are at least 1 meter wide. Most have an elliptical shape (vertical or horizontal), but circular gates have been recorded.
A gate passes through four distinct phases: initiation, access status, power status and closing. Phases 2 and 3 do not occur necessarily in that order. No one has been able so far to open a gate or close it.
All we know, thanks to observations made in the field, is that this opening has a very intense radiation, which can be harmful to biological organisms.
The door is open for our world, we can insert any object or being in it, but nothing comes from the other side.
In this state, it is transparent, showing only the optical phenomena modification described above. The state of the source is described by Stefan, at this stage, a gate whitish color, does not allow access from us, but operates as an open door for the other side. Since it can get objects (beings?), always described as white ball-shaped, moving with great speed, rolling on the ground or a short height.
Closing never seems to generate the same intense radiation."
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http://www.thelivingmoon.com/46ats_members/Lisa2012/03files/Bucegi_Mountains_The_Mystery.html#Military
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread661940/pg1
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 12:51:07 [Permalink]
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| And How do I stop getting warning for copywrite material when NO ONE FUCKING LOOKS OR LISTENS!!! WHEN I PROVIDE FUCKING EVIDENCE NO ONE GIVESS A TOSS! FUCK THIS! |
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H. Humbert
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 Posted - 10/11/2011 : 13:08:26 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
And How do I stop getting warning for copywrite material when NO ONE FUCKING LOOKS OR LISTENS!!! WHEN I PROVIDE FUCKING EVIDENCE NO ONE GIVESS A TOSS! FUCK THIS!
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flanagan1000, you have not provided evidence. What you have provided are stories. Stories can be powerfully compelling. Obviously these have affected you quite emotionally. But not all stories are true. We have read. We have listened. But to what end? We don't believe these stories are true. They don't tell us anything real, so there is no reason for real concern.
Your fears are groundless. You might as well be posting stories telling us to be afraid of a boogeyman living under our beds.
If you want to be free from fear, then we can help expose why these stories are implausible and fictional. But if you want us to share your fears, to become just as worried as you are, then I'm afraid you need to go elsewhere. Boogeymen just don't scare us.
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 13:20:07 [Permalink]
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I'm really in tears from that comment. You people have not once looked at all the details provided and given me a long critcal response as to why it is all fiction. All people have done is not bothered to look at it and just say its either bollocks, fiction or most annoying that its just an ARG. How dare you tell me that you have explained why its all fiction.
And for your information I did not come har to spread fear, I just want people to look at everything I have shown, especially the things like interviews and give a criitical ananlysis of it all, but know one has done that. So of course I'm going to keep persisting becuase it just won't go away. Not too mention that Peter Moon is still going to conventions talking about this and accoring to one of the books a deal was agreed between the U.S and Romania to eventually disclose this. Of course I'm filled with dread becuase it shows everything is true and that this Radu guy is right.
My head is my hands, I can't think I keep having to supress sobs. |
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moakley
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:21:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
I'm really in tears from that comment.
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flanagan1000 please get help. Everything that you claim has not been done by the members here, has been done. From my perspective you have refused their critical analysis of the data that you have provided. Fears are often irrational this is one of those fears. So please seek help, professional, your minister, a parent, a trusted friend. This fear is not worth the anxiety you are causing yourself. |
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:25:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
You people have not once looked at all the details provided and given me a long critcal response as to why it is all fiction. |
It's not up to us to debunk this stuff, it's up to you to support it. Posting Google-translated items isn't going to do that, you need to actually make a case that it's real. Where is the independent corroborating evidence?
Both Peter Moon and Radu Cinamar appear to be authors of fiction. Like Robert Anton Wilson and a slew of other fiction authors, a portion of their audiences enjoy it when they talk about their fiction as if it were real. So the fact that they remain "in character" at conventions and in interviews doesn't lend what they write an iota of veracity. It only says that they like getting paid.
So, find the real evidence. Find people discussing "Department Zero" before Radu Cinamar ever published anything. Find documents on an Air Force web site detailing the work that Anderson allegedly did for them.
We already know that Atlantykron and the Anderson Institute are fake, the latter for a number of reasons already discussed. Since Peter Moon mentions both:Since returning from Romania I have reported on my adventures with David Anderson, his Time Travel Research Center and my adventures in Romania which were centered around the Atlantykron Conference. we can be fairly certain that the whole book is fiction.
Heh. Did you know that Peter Moon is a co-author of Ong's Hat: The Beginning? |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:26:04 [Permalink]
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But no one has done critical analysis on anything! How manyy fuucking times do I have to tell people, ARHSEIOPRHRGIPHNK;NBKQIPY4-A1. Fuck, fuck ,fuck! I really can't take it anymore. I really just want to find a an endless pit and drop into it. I can't take it anymore, NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO !!!NJIQWEILNSWO
Now I'm banging the keyboard. Fuck! |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:34:32 [Permalink]
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But please, ingore them for the time being, becuasethat i just being using as foder in orderto avoid the actual issue which i Radmu's books:
Lok I found a transcript of on his books: The Secrets of Egypt: Which is basically about ne of the tunnels that lead t Egypt:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/36851066/Mystery-of-Egypt-First-Tunnel-Radu-Cinamar
Look, no involvement from Peter Moonat all, FUCKING READ IT!
Oh god, I don't know what to d, I don't know what tto do I DONT KNOW WHT TO DO!
Oh god its too much, too much, TOO MUCH. I feel sick and cold. |
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:35:50 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
But no one has done critical analysis on anything! How manyy fuucking times do I have to tell people, ARHSEIOPRHRGIPHNK;NBKQIPY4-A1. Fuck, fuck ,fuck! I really can't take it anymore. I really just want to find a an endless pit and drop into it. I can't take it anymore, NO NO NONO NO NO NO NO NO NO O NO !!!NJIQWEILNSWO
Now I'm banging the keyboard. Fuck!
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You do have a flare for melodrama. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:38:29 [Permalink]
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Oh god! More and more is coming:
Ok This is getting interesting. On a Romanian Blog in 2009 Mai This man posted the following:
" Permalink Hitm.... May 14, 2009 11:50 p.m. Who does not believe in what he writes here (He refers to Radu Cinamar Book in regards to the underground tunnels in Bucegi Mountains) to go there and see with his eyes but still will not be allowed to enter because I was there and I could not close in more than 500 meters. I had to leave at the suggestions of some Romanian soldiers and civilians that it i is a military base and I have no place to be there. They escorted me to the location where I left the car and waited until I left. Those interested can contact me on the messenger id Hitman....... for more information" |
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread661940/pg6
I feel even more sick. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 14:42:40 [Permalink]
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More information:
As I promised the discussion went on and the account is as it follows was the summer of 2008 , the person went to "Ialomicioara Cave" after he visited "Babele " On his way back from there he did not go back on the hiking trail but wonder in the surrounding area . I have to tell you that this would be an area where seeing military with arms and guns it would look out of place. He claims he was in a really remote area Not too far away from the hiking trail when two Military Man Romanian Military fully armed saw him asked him where he is going and then he said he got lost so they directed him towards the Hiking trails.
His statement seem honest to me . He said he did not see a building or an entrance to anything nor a military base but for the remote area he was in he said that it was very strange to have those military man there ..very serious and non communicative.
I will upload the map so we can all see how the Babele is positioned and how the "Ialomicioara Cave"map is and a little more info about this area . Also I thought this was really strange because all this happened in the proximity of this cave system.
I hope this is a step forward.
Then I was directed by the same man to look into some info by Andrea Caprarescu that claims there is a gate in the Carpatian Mountains towards another dimension.
I will translate this and post it withing few minutes .
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread661940/pg7
I feel like running away somewhere, anyway, I cant take it anymore. Thats it, it looks like this is all real. |
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 16:25:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by flanagan1000
Can yoou at least just listen to this interview. Its just that its so confusing, the conspiracy, thee shattering discovering, the ancient civilizations. I don't where the exist is, I want to share this information. Please listen to this interview, it might help give you a better understanding.
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/otherworldradio/2009/12/03/peter-moon--interview-part-2-transylvanian-sunrise
Please look at all the links in this entire thread, try and find out whats going on, it just feels to real,its happening and I know it. But that is what is scarying me.
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I went through half of the extremely lengthy audio and was quite convinced it was science fiction meeting reality. What is so scary about that?
You know life was brought to earth by asteroids and so was all the water you see in the oceans and lakes. They were the ice that was on the asteroids which melted after landing on earth.
If you look at ancient calligraphy and all those geometrical shapes created by ancient civilizations. They were complex mathematical equations and advanced maps from a more advanced race than the ones who created them. Which suggest aliens had visited earth in the distant past.
Many of the science they taught us has been forgotten or lost. Levitation, metallurgy, space travel.
I think you should enjoy your mind expansion journey into the wide expanse of the unknown with the same bewilderment as a scientist who recognizes the vastness of his ignorance of the universe and beyond.
Scientist are developing a Quantum Ignorance calculator. So not only can the scientist express the vastness of their ignorance but will soon have a way to measure it. 
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flanagan1000
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Posted - 10/11/2011 : 17:10:47 [Permalink]
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I was hoping for someon who tok a much more skeptical view would liten to hat. I want to think that this all stupid thak you very much.
If you can't be bothered with that interview. There is another interview that describe boths books that were translated by Peter Moon
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/otherworldradio/2011/05/02/peter-moon--interview-transylvania-moonrise-49
It basically throws everything, aliens, philospher stone, life extention and Peter Moon himself says he is practising it. Please liste to this interview. |
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