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ThorGoLucky
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Dave W.
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 08/11/2012 : 10:23:18 [Permalink]
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| These two now look like a great team for running for... what is it? Some church post? |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Kil
Evil Skeptic
USA
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Posted - 08/11/2012 : 10:50:55 [Permalink]
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| You know... Ryan's plan is not popular. And Ryan has many pseudo-science beliefs, especially on global warming. Romney might have done us a favore by choosing Ryan. |
Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.
Why not question something for a change?
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 08/11/2012 : 11:27:59 [Permalink]
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I was thinking the same thing as Kil when I read about Ryan.
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Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
Dr. Mabuse whisper.mp3
"Equivocation is not just a job, for a creationist it's a way of life..." Dr. Mabuse
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HalfMooner
Dingaling
Philippines
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Posted - 08/11/2012 : 11:59:41 [Permalink]
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Two slick, male, lily-white, millionaires (Romney's worth maybe 200 million, while Ryan's a piker with only about 1 to 3 million), who both just happen to support shaking more tax revenue out of the lower classes while lowering taxes for the very rich. Plus they are both in bed with the god-bothering theocrats.
Added: Oh, and this, too. Ryan denies climate change and has charged that AGW-recognizing climatologists are conspirators, to boot. Bodes well for science in a Romney administration.
Gee, if I were Obama, I would be stumped as to where to even start on these guys. |
“Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
4955 Posts |
 Posted - 08/11/2012 : 17:38:47 [Permalink]
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A nice summary of the horrible-ness of Ryan's economic proposals are given here.
The general meme in the mainstream ("liberal") media is that Ryan is a serious-minded policy expert. The reality, though, is that his economic ideas aren't even comprehensible and if anyone among our press corps had half a brain coupled with a fully-functioning spine, he'd have stopped being a serious candidate for anything a long time ago. |
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 08/12/2012 : 09:09:27 [Permalink]
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| He's looking like Sarah Palin in drag. |
Bailey's second law; There is no relationship between the three virtues of intelligence, education, and wisdom.
You fiend! Never have I encountered such corrupt and foul-minded perversity! Have you ever considered a career in the Church? - The Bishop of Bath and Wells, Blackadder II
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2012 : 10:20:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by The Rat
He's looking like Sarah Palin in drag. |
But it's worse, because unlike Palin, who is genuinely stupid, Paul is somewhat competent. Moreover, the media have been treating him as a serious-minded person who has legitimate ideas regarding the budget.
Of course, anyone who's actually worked through his budget proposals are mathematically impossible (or, they'd turn us into a worse version of, like, Colombia). But the media are too stupid (or too afraid of right wing AM talk radio) to figure this out. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/12/2012 : 19:37:59 [Permalink]
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Romney picked a party liner. The base doesn't like him enough, and he might as well quit if he can't get the base to vote. Oh, and Republican party liners tend to say crazy anti-scientific things.
I even intended to defend Ryan here because it seemed from the isolated quotes he was merely saying climate change was a tough sell to people seeing so much snow (which is actually true, polls of Americans on the issue do turn significantly with the weather events), but that's not what he was doing, he was trying to dismiss climate change for asinine reasons (this and "climate gate") in this joke of an op-ed:
http://paulryan.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=193671
The article he references (http://www.journaltimes.com/news/opinion/editorial/article_0da83e5e-e074-11de-9494-001cc4c002e0.html) is trying to be dramatic ("How sound will the science appear, just weeks after this mess jolted it off the foundation?"), but it still completely disagrees with Ryan's suggestion that it has any bearing on AGW whatsoever ("A handful of scientists' transgressions shouldn't destroy the theory that human activity is warming the Earth"). |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
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Convinced
Skeptic Friend
USA
384 Posts |
Posted - 08/13/2012 : 10:43:23 [Permalink]
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I cannot find any of the rights that are given in the bill of rights in the bible. Rights are given to people by people through governments. The bible indicates that christians are subject to the governments that have authority over them. It never mentions God wants us to live free, have freedom of speech, religion etc.
But it does sound good in a political election. |
Therefore be careful how you walk, not as unwise men but as wise, making the most of your time, because the days are evil. So then do not be foolish, but understand what the will of the Lord is. (Eph 5:15-17) |
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moakley
SFN Regular
USA
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Posted - 08/13/2012 : 18:00:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Oh, FFS. Our rights are supposed to be secured by the government. Has this guy not read the Constitution?
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If he doesn't know any better, then I would expect that to disqualify him from holding public office. If he does know better, then he is simply a fluff boy for the conservative base. But it really doesn't matter whether he knows any better, he secures the conservative vote.  Well played Gov. Romney. |
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 08/13/2012 : 20:05:10 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Convinced
Rights are given to people by people through governments. |
This contradicts the ideas proposed in the founding documents of the U.S.A. People have rights, just because they are people. The government's job is to protect the rights of individuals from threats both foreign and domestic. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
Posted - 08/14/2012 : 21:54:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Convinced
Rights are given to people by people through governments. |
This contradicts the ideas proposed in the founding documents of the U.S.A. People have rights, just because they are people. The government's job is to protect the rights of individuals from threats both foreign and domestic.
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I can't think of any founder fathers (except probably Thomas Paine if he counts) who wouldn't have been of this opinion, including the those who may have been deists. The concept of natural rights was extremely popular, as was Locke in promoting it, among the founding fathers. |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking
"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
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Dave W.
Info Junkie
USA
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Posted - 08/14/2012 : 22:17:41 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Machi4velli
Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by Convinced
Rights are given to people by people through governments. |
This contradicts the ideas proposed in the founding documents of the U.S.A. People have rights, just because they are people. The government's job is to protect the rights of individuals from threats both foreign and domestic.
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I can't think of any founder fathers (except probably Thomas Paine if he counts) who wouldn't have been of this opinion, including the those who may have been deists. The concept of natural rights was extremely popular, as was Locke in promoting it, among the founding fathers. |
Yes, that's why I said, "people have rights." Convinced said that rights are granted by governments, which directly contradicts the concept of natural rights. |
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Machi4velli
SFN Regular
USA
854 Posts |
 Posted - 08/15/2012 : 10:24:32 [Permalink]
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Well yeah, I'm agreeing with you  |
"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno
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VP candidate Paul Ryan
