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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile
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 Posted - 10/28/2012 : 13:16:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Hawks
Does it have anything to do with Atheism+? Is Dave W a cult?
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You will find that in my responses to the individual. I know he is not reading them. You may wish to start.
Hate to repeat myself. Most . . . unseemly.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 13:17:51 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
There are differences of opinion in the world of skepticism over it's scope. Some keep fairly close to the science part of "scientific skepticism" while others want to widen the scope of skepticism (the brand) to include those things that can't be tested and tend to more a matter of logic while still calling it skepticism, (the brand). |
Since you brought it up... the scientific-skepticism-only faction does seem to have a cultish insistence on ideological purity.  |
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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 13:19:28 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Kil
No. Not really. There are differences of opinion in the world of skepticism over it's scope. Some keep fairly close to the science part of "scientific skepticism" while others want to widen the scope of skepticism (the brand) to include those things that can't be tested. . . . |
That is not factionism; factionism has little to do with critical thinking.
| I'm sure the same goes for factions within the PTA. |
Depends on the factions. Depends, certainly on the behavior.
| We are hardly cultish in our behavior. |
His continued behavior demonstrates otherwise.
| Well no. Because we are discussing cult behavior, it's relevant to this thread. We need a working definition. |
I dislike tangents.
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 14:12:40 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Doctor X
I dislike tangents. |
Kil asked you for an operational definition of how cults behave because that behavior is fundamental to your accusations that I (or anyone who identifies with Atheism+) is exhibiting "cultish behavior," but now you declare it to be a tangent?! |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
USA
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 15:22:11 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dave W.
Originally posted by On fire for Christ
Probably because of the name they chose. "+" implies superiority. When you brand yourself as "X+" the implication is that you are better than X. |
Yes, activists for social justice are better than sexists, homophobes, racists, misogynists, classists, ableists, transphobes and the rest of the asswipes. Do you really want to argue against that?| Regardless of what their mission statement is, people who define themselves as X will naturally take umbridge. |
Those who define themselves as just atheists shouldn't be bothered, which is what's puzzling. But here we have Cune (for example) passing a negative judgment on the label while obviously not giving enough of a shit to learn the motivation behind it. Why? Why is he expending so much effort (more than "none at all") to poo-poo something he claims to be indifferent about and which he's made clear doesn't affect him in the least little bit? It makes no sense.
Cune, you know I think you're awesome, but this is just bizarre.
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Fair enough, Dave. And you're right. I guess I have seen in times past big fights about how atheists should re-brand themselves (e.g. "Brights") and figured this was something like that. I haven't read much up on it and should before I act so dismissively. My apologies. |
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Cuneiformist
The Imperfectionist
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 15:24:27 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by On fire for Christ
Originally posted by Cuneiformist
I honestly don't know any atheist "misogynists, racists and homophobes" but then again, I tend not to hang out with misogynists, racists and homophobes either.
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Don't know any personally or don't know of any?
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Don't know any personally, of course. And really, I only know of a handful of actual atheists either personally or publicly, and can't think of anyone (off the top of my head) who fits the "misogynists, racists and homophobes" group. I'm sure there are, I'm just not up on who is. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 17:08:02 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Cuneiformist
Fair enough, Dave. And you're right. I guess I have seen in times past big fights about how atheists should re-brand themselves (e.g. "Brights") and figured this was something like that. I haven't read much up on it and should before I act so dismissively. My apologies. |
Apologies weren't necessary, but I'm sure any of the truly active A+ers who might read this thread appreciate it. |
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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 20:22:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Doctor X
I dislike tangents. |
I also do not waste my time with the willfully dishonest and terminally petulant.
--J.D. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 20:41:15 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Doctor X
I also do not waste my time with the willfully dishonest and terminally petulant. |
Coward. |
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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 20:47:22 [Permalink]
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Gentlemen do not soil themselves with the willfully dishonest and terminally petulant, of course.
That one is upset at that exposure merely underscores the responsibility for it remains his. His own words were quoted, his own misbehavior demonstrated, his worthlessness proves manifest.
For that, I am afraid there is a Cornfield into which I must consign him--the wonders of FF and Greasemonkey. Should he ever contribute something of honest maturity--even . . . dare I suggest it . . . thoughtfulness--I am sure I will receive notice of this miracle.
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"And I have nothing more to say."
--J. "My Secrets are Not Sold Cheaply" D. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 20:52:07 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Doctor X
That one is upset at that exposure... |
Another cowardly, hypocritical lie. Keep digging, Doctor X, keep digging.
It's really funny watching you claim to refuse to "waste your time," and then waste more time.| "And I have nothing more to say." |
That'll be the day. |
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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile
151 Posts |
Posted - 10/28/2012 : 20:53:59 [Permalink]
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I am sure with whatever tantrum the individual spewed, it proved most epically embarrassing.
In that, he remains consistent.
And some question why his behavior resembles that of a cult.
Curious.
--J.D. |
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Dave W.
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 21:01:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Doctor X
I am sure with whatever tantrum the individual spewed, it proved most epically embarrassing.
In that, he remains consistent.
And some question why his behavior resembles that of a cult.
Curious. |
And you waste still more time after indicating that you had nothing more to say.
Bwahahahahaha! |
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 10/28/2012 : 22:58:08 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Doctor X
I am sure with whatever tantrum the individual spewed, it proved most epically embarrassing.
In that, he remains consistent.
And some question why his behavior resembles that of a cult.
Curious.
--J.D.
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Tantrums are cultish behavior? That is curious. Or is consistency the cultish behavior? But that doesn't seem right either.
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