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Doctor X
Voluntary Exile

151 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  00:26:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Doctor X a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Tantrums are cultish behavior?


Cult members do tend to throw tantrums when contradicted as demonstrated above.

But that doesn't seem right either.


"It is what it is."

And that is that. I see no reason to continue on a board run by the dishonest.



--J.D.

His secrets are not sold cheaply.
It is perilous to waste his time.
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Hawks
SFN Regular

Canada
1383 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  11:54:30   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Hawks's Homepage Send Hawks a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Doctor X
You will find that in my responses to the individual.
It seems that some of us have a hard time understanding why you keep saying cult. Unfortunately, your responses don't help. Finding examples of behavior that you think some cults do does not necessarily make the behaviour cultish.

I know he is not reading them. You may wish to start.

I have read them. They don't help.

METHINKS IT IS LIKE A WEASEL
It's a small, off-duty czechoslovakian traffic warden!
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  12:30:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Doctor X

Originally posted by H. Humbert

Tantrums are cultish behavior?


Cult members do tend to throw tantrums when contradicted as demonstrated above.
Oh, right. Because Dave is in a cult. So cultish behavior is whatever Dave exhibits, as judged by you. I'm beginning to understand how you arrive at conclusions.

And that is that. I see no reason to continue on a board run by the dishonest.
Uh-oh. I think quitting the forums in a snit qualifies as having a tantrum. Doctor X just joined a cult.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 10/29/2012 12:39:53
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  12:42:02   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He's gone, guys. He asked to have his account deleted, which we won't do because he's left comments.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
Evidently, I rock!
Why not question something for a change?
Visit Dave's Psoriasis Info, too.
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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  12:45:22   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

He's gone, guys.
Oh, I knew he was serious when he posted the Kevin Spacey .gif. You don't do that unless you plan on burning some bridges.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
Edited by - H. Humbert on 10/29/2012 12:46:44
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  13:28:27   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by H. Humbert

Oh, I knew he was serious when he posted the Kevin Spacey .gif. You don't do that unless you plan on burning some bridges.
Is that from The Usual Suspects? I don't remember the scene or the context. But Doc X seemed to have plenty of obscure references in his bag of tricks, and I just ignored them as intentional failures of communication.

(I just looked up Lexx on Netflix, and I rated it with one star, which suggests a reason why I don't even remember watching it at all.)

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H. Humbert
SFN Die Hard

USA
4574 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  14:43:29   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send H. Humbert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.
Is that from The Usual Suspects?
Yeah. Just like Keyser Söze, Doctor X is gone. It's so theatrical.


"A man is his own easiest dupe, for what he wishes to be true he generally believes to be true." --Demosthenes

"The first principle is that you must not fool yourself - and you are the easiest person to fool." --Richard P. Feynman

"Face facts with dignity." --found inside a fortune cookie
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Dave W.
Info Junkie

USA
26022 Posts

Posted - 10/29/2012 :  14:59:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Dave W.'s Homepage Send Dave W. a Private Message  Reply with Quote
At the 4:18 mark in this clip, yes?

By implication, Doc X thinks himself to be a myth, and he believes in God.

- Dave W. (Private Msg, EMail)
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie

USA
4826 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2012 :  09:26:10   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Valiant Dancer's Homepage Send Valiant Dancer a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

He's gone, guys. He asked to have his account deleted, which we won't do because he's left comments.


Ah, yes.

The Flounce. #54 on this list.

Linky

I'll bet if you go back through Doc's messages, you can identify more of these.

Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils

Brother Cutlass of Reasoned Discussion
Edited by - Valiant Dancer on 10/30/2012 09:28:12
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend

Sweden
9688 Posts

Posted - 10/30/2012 :  11:45:56   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Send Dr. Mabuse an ICQ Message Send Dr. Mabuse a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Elsewhere on SFN, Doctor X seemed skeptical and educated enough but his performance in this thread was really disappointing. I guess we all have our blind spots, but this one was a train wreck.

Dr. Mabuse - "When the going gets tough, the tough get Duct-tape..."
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HalfMooner
Dingaling

Philippines
15831 Posts

Posted - 10/31/2012 :  07:41:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send HalfMooner a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, I certainly don't think A+ is a cult. Any movement may become one, however, especially a cult of personality. But I simply don't see that happening with A+.

My objections were and are minor, relating mainly to the implications and explications of the name. What A+ is, is a faction or tendency within atheism attempting to take on social issues. I only disagree with them that it has been shown that they have yet demonstrated a logical connection between atheism and those causes.

As my interests encompass the same territory as theirs, I think my objections are very minor. I'll certainly not be labeling A+ as a "cult" unless there is some indication that it is becoming one.

Biology is just physics that has begun to smell bad.” —HalfMooner
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On fire for Christ
SFN Regular

Norway
1273 Posts

Posted - 11/01/2012 :  05:46:58   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send On fire for Christ a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Doctor's gone? I kinda liked him.

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Machi4velli
SFN Regular

USA
854 Posts

Posted - 11/08/2012 :  12:13:36   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by Dave W.

Originally posted by On fire for Christ

Probably because of the name they chose. "+" implies superiority. When you brand yourself as "X+" the implication is that you are better than X.
Yes, activists for social justice are better than sexists, homophobes, racists, misogynists, classists, ableists, transphobes and the rest of the asswipes. Do you really want to argue against that?


I realize I'm practicing some necromancy, but it's just that the way this is written sounds like a straw man, I'll agree that activists of social justice are better the than the groups you listed, but I will also argue there exist X's that are not in those groups and also are not X+'s, thus deflecting your argument from OFFC's point.

I think you agree given your history (correct me if not), but this is the way that particular post is written, and a lot of A+ material seems to be written, and it's in part just a misunderstanding.

It's like Romney's "47%" -- it's not wrong that he said he has little shot at getting many votes among the 47% with his tax message, it's wrong that he went on the conflate them with those who don't take responsibility for themselves and think they're victims, implying superiority of all of the other 53%.

"Truth does not change because it is, or is not, believed by a majority of the people."
-Giordano Bruno

"The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, but the illusion of knowledge."
-Stephen Hawking

"Seeking what is true is not seeking what is desirable"
-Albert Camus
Edited by - Machi4velli on 11/08/2012 12:15:36
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