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sailingsoul
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Posted - 10/15/2013 :  20:19:19   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send sailingsoul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

That's a pretty lucid point.

I grew up in San Diego with Japanese-American neighbors surrounding me. The Horie and the Itos families were doubly related by marriage. They had begun as poor peasants in Kyushu, had migrated to Hawaii as plantation workers, then resettled in San Diego and bought their own land to start a lucrative truck farming business.

I recall seeing three generations of them standing side by side once. Those who grew up in Japan were the shortest, their kids were intermediate, and the youngest were several inches taller than their grandparents. I thought then and think now that the differences in their statures were mainly due to increasingly better nutrition, especially dairy products.
What you observed Mooner, I believe, was the affects of a better diet in their embryonic phase AND preadult years. When body development (cell division) is most accelerated. Having a reduced height in adulthood is one affect of a poor diet in pre-adulthood times and is not correctable after the window of development has past, with a better diet. Brain development also have their own windows, where inadequate nutrition and/or stimulation affects optimal development. Unlike other issues caused by a poor diet that can be correct once a better diet is had. One should be cautious not to assume that what is a good diet is equally good universally. Either with fetuses, developing children, adults OR seniors. It should be different feeds, for different needs.

I'd like to note there are some foods that should not be eaten before certain age/s and when they are, adverse health of developement occurs. Which can be temporary or permanent. (depending)

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tomk80
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Posted - 10/16/2013 :  07:34:15   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by HalfMooner

That's fascinating. I notice that by these measures, most North-West European countries, aside from France, are fairly racially tolerant, as are the ANZAC nations, South Africa (good progress there!) and most of the nations in the Americas. I think the question about who you'd object to as a neighbor is an ideal one for gauging tolerance. India (with its large Muslim minority), along with Indonesia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and a large number of other Islamic-majority nations are comparatively intolerant. Makes one wonder at the much-vaunted racial tolerance of Islam.

For India, I wouldn't discount the intolerance of Hindus, both toward theselves (caste system), as well as others (not Hindu).

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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Machi4velli
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Posted - 10/16/2013 :  19:25:11   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Machi4velli a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Originally posted by tomk80

Originally posted by HalfMooner

That's fascinating. I notice that by these measures, most North-West European countries, aside from France, are fairly racially tolerant, as are the ANZAC nations, South Africa (good progress there!) and most of the nations in the Americas. I think the question about who you'd object to as a neighbor is an ideal one for gauging tolerance. India (with its large Muslim minority), along with Indonesia, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, and a large number of other Islamic-majority nations are comparatively intolerant. Makes one wonder at the much-vaunted racial tolerance of Islam.

For India, I wouldn't discount the intolerance of Hindus, both toward theselves (caste system), as well as others (not Hindu).


They're around 15% Muslim I believe. Not sure how well the Hindus get along with them.

None of them want to live beside a Pakistani I suspect, but not sure if they would consider Pakistanis of another "race"

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Edited by - Machi4velli on 10/16/2013 19:40:18
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