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Dave W.
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 Posted - 02/27/2015 : 11:01:08
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Leonard Nimoy, Spock of ‘Star Trek,’ Dies at 83:Leonard Nimoy, the sonorous, gaunt-faced actor who won a worshipful global following as Mr. Spock, the resolutely logical human-alien first officer of the Starship Enterprise in the television and movie juggernaut “Star Trek,” died on Friday morning at his home in the Bel Air section of Los Angeles. He was 83.
His wife, Susan Bay Nimoy, confirmed his death, saying the cause was end-stage chronic obstructive pulmonary disease.
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ThorGoLucky
Snuggle Wolf
USA
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Posted - 02/27/2015 : 11:29:31 [Permalink]
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| Aw. A long, prosperous and influential career indeed. |
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Valiant Dancer
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USA
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Posted - 02/27/2015 : 12:05:44 [Permalink]
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Unfortunate. But inevitable.
So long Mr. Spock. Say "hello" to Mr. Scott for us. |
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Kil
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Posted - 02/27/2015 : 12:55:44 [Permalink]
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| Awwww. |
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Dave W.
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Dr. Mabuse
Septic Fiend
Sweden
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 11:54:07 [Permalink]
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Sad, but inevitable.
Or as someone said: "You lived long, and we prospered".
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The Rat
SFN Regular
Canada
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Posted - 03/01/2015 : 11:56:03 [Permalink]
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Let's not be too quick to fault him on that. Here are David Gerrold's thoughts on the matter:
So -- to the fans who engaged in some Shatner bashing, who complained because he's keeping his word to the Red Cross in Florida, or because didn't treat you like a long-lost brother when you were number 627 in the autograph line, or because you still think those books written by other people are accurate records of what really happened on the soundstage....
No. Just no.
I know Bill Shatner. We're on good terms. He's someone I admire and respect. Without him, a lot of us would not have had careers. He's an American treasure.
He is also a very private man. I think he's shy -- so shy that he has a blind spot. He doesn't know how to deal well with people one on one, he has to be Bill the star, Bill the performance.
(Those who've complained about the way he signs autographs at conventions -- he has to sign hundreds of autographs and he has to do it in a very short time -- and if you've ever had to sign hundreds of autographs, your hand can get tired very quickly. It's not a pleasant experience, It's a chore.)
Anyway, this is why he's a workaholic. It's his way of dealing with the world.
He's an entertainer. He's a terrific dramatic actor -- he's even better as a comic actor. He's had a longer career than most actors have been alive. And he has the skill of reinventing himself to the needs of the show.
Now -- here's something you need to know about the production of Star Trek.
Bill was the star. That meant he had to be in almost every scene. That meant he usually had 60 pages of script to learn EVERY FUCKING WEEK. He had to be there early every morning. (Only Nimoy had to be there earlier, to put on those damned ears.) If there was a makeup challenge, he would have to be there at 6am.
The rest of the cast did not have such a grueling schedule. They usually worked only two or three days per week. (Nimoy probably worked almost as many days as Shatner, because they shared a lot of scenes, but the burden still fell on Shatner's shoulders.)
In addition to having to learn 6 pages of dialog every day, Bill also had interviews, photo shoots, appearances, etc. to help promote the show. It was an exhausting schedule. I saw Bill on the set enough times to know that he worked very hard at keeping people's spirits up. He was playful, energetic, focused, and as hard a worker as you could ever want to share a soundstage with.
If he didn't have time to be buddy-buddy with the rest of the cast it's because he was a young man carrying a big-budget TV show on his shoulders and he didn't want to be the reason it failed, he wanted it to work, every moment of every episode.
That some of the actors wrote tell-all books ... well, okay -- they told all. What they told was how they experienced it. (And one of them said some very stupid stuff.)
But when Bill wrote his book, he was candid. He was honest. He admitted that he could have treated the others better. Indeed, he spoke better of the supporting cast than they spoke of him. To me, that's a mensch.
So if you want to bash William Shatner from your position of fannish infinite wisdom, please don't expect to be my friend. I was there. I've been there for almost half a century. You're talking about my family. |
And from a friend of Gerrold:
From Paul Camuso:
I'm usually not one to comment but I will. For those that do not know me, I work with Bill Shatner on a weekly if not daily basis. Bill is feeling horrible that he is not able to attend Leonard's funeral tomorrow. I spoke with Bill this morning on the phone - did anyone else? I would bet they did not. Bill is honoring a pledge he made to a charity to appear tonight, they sold tickets based on the fact Bill was going to be there. This is their big fundraising event of the year where they bring in the bulk of their money to do good to the community they serve. To abandon them with less than 24 hours notice would be unthinkable. It would put the charity in a very bad position. There were no flights back so he's stuck. He is not happy about the situation but he is a professional who keeps his promise to a charity. David, I thank you for speaking out. I'm absolutely going to share your message with Bill, next week. Pax. |
And more from Gerrold:
A thought from one of my friends, worth passing on:
"Do you really think Leonard Nimoy would want you saying bad things about his lifelong friend?" |
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Spock is gone
