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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Renae
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 Posted - 09/07/2004 : 18:05:09 [Permalink]
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Ricky, you have tremendous patience and a sharp mind. 
I wonder if the bigot internalized that her/his position was morally and logically indefensible. I mean...what does it take for bigots to *get it?*
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/07/2004 : 22:39:04 [Permalink]
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| That person says she is 16? Well... that is a big part of the problem right there.... you can't talk to 16 y/o's and expect anything other than the sensation you'd get while beating your head against a brick wall repeatedly. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Maverick
Skeptic Friend
Sweden
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 00:07:45 [Permalink]
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| Her argument that people adopted by gay couples or children of an interracial relationship are being made fun of is particularily interesting, especially since it's most likely people like her that are making fun of them... |
"Life is but a momentary glimpse of the wonder of this astonishing universe, and it is sad to see so many dreaming it away on spiritual fantasy." -- Carl Sagan |
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
USA
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 08:56:10 [Permalink]
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Ricky, if you haven't noticed.... you're an exception to the rule. Most teenagers already know everything and are incapable of actually applying critical thought to any topic on which they are experts(which is all topics). When confronted with their inconsistencies, like your chat friend, they just get pissed off and tell you you're an idiot.
It's pretty much pointless to speak to them after that point. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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BigPapaSmurf
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/08/2004 : 11:38:56 [Permalink]
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| Hes right man, your a 1% kinda guy, get used to it. |
"...things I have neither seen nor experienced nor heard tell of from anybody else; things, what is more, that do not in fact exist and could not ever exist at all. So my readers must not believe a word I say." -Lucian on his book True History
"...They accept such things on faith alone, without any evidence. So if a fraudulent and cunning person who knows how to take advantage of a situation comes among them, he can make himself rich in a short time." -Lucian critical of early Christians c.166 AD From his book, De Morte Peregrini |
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tomk80
SFN Regular
Netherlands
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Posted - 09/09/2004 : 02:56:35 [Permalink]
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| Very true. It takes time to discover that you might sometimes be wrong. Even more disstressing is that some people never learn. |
Tom
`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
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dominic_dice
Skeptic Friend
United Kingdom
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Posted - 09/09/2004 : 10:22:40 [Permalink]
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| Not all 16 Y/Os are like that! I hope I'm not. I agree, many are, but isn't generalising against a group of people like that Ad Hom I hear you talk about so much? |
"Are you THE dominic_dice"
"No, a dominic_dice. I come in six packs now" |
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Valiant Dancer
Forum Goalie
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Posted - 09/09/2004 : 10:49:03 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by dominic_dice
Not all 16 Y/Os are like that! I hope I'm not. I agree, many are, but isn't generalising against a group of people like that Ad Hom I hear you talk about so much?
Nope. Rash generalization, maybe, but not ad hom.
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Cthulhu/Asmodeus when you're tired of voting for the lesser of two evils
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furshur
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Posted - 09/09/2004 : 11:08:56 [Permalink]
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When I was 16 I was very knowledgable. In fact I was amazed at how little my father actually understood about the world compared to me. The truly amazing thing is that by the time I reached 19 or 20 his intelligence must have jumped 30 or 40 IQ points!
(My appologies to Mark Twain.)
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Ricky
SFN Die Hard
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Dude
SFN Die Hard
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Posted - 09/09/2004 : 15:55:49 [Permalink]
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It's a characteristic that is expresses by most teens, not all.
It'd only be a rash generalization if I has said all teens. |
Ignorance is preferable to error; and he is less remote from the truth who believes nothing, than he who believes what is wrong.
-- Thomas Jefferson
"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
Hope, n.
The handmaiden of desperation; the opiate of despair; the illegible signpost on the road to perdition. ~~ da filth |
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Valiant Dancer
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Posted - 09/10/2004 : 06:38:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Ricky
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Not all 16 Y/Os are like that! I hope I'm not. I agree, many are, but isn't generalising against a group of people like that Ad Hom I hear you talk about so much?
Nope. Rash generalization, maybe, but not ad hom.
This is probably a Straw Man, but is it such when you say that for a 10 year old? What about 14? 15? Where is the line?
Everyone matures at different rates. I've seen some 13 year olds express more maturity than 30 year olds. I would say from my experience, that those individuals who are mature for 16 are not representative of the whole. As a population, 16 year olds tend to be immature and feel that they know better than more experienced people. ("tend" in this case acknowledges the mature, critical thinkers who are 16.) |
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