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There have been a great many bodies gathered at Tuzla, some 7,500 or more, many in poor condition or parts only, their collection and handling incompatible with professional forensic standards, their provenance unclear and link to the July 1995 events in Srebrenica unproven and often unlikely, [43] and the manner of their death usually uncertain. Interestingly, although the Serbs were regularly accused of trying to hide bodies, there has never been any suggestion that the Bosnian Muslims, long in charge of the body search, might shift bodies around and otherwise manipulate evidence, despite their substantial record of dissembling. A systematic attempt to use DNA to trace connections to Srebrenica is underway, but entails many problems, apart from that of the integrity of the material studied and process of investigation, and will not resolve the question of differentiating executions from deaths in combat. There are also lists of missing, but these lists are badly flawed, with duplications, individuals listed who had died before July 1995, who fled to avoid BSA service, or who registered to vote in 1997, and they include individuals who died in battle or reached safety or were captured and assumed a new existence elsewhere. [44]

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Originally posted by Gorgo

I suggest you read the whole essay at:

http://www.zmag.org/content/showarticle.cfm?SectionID=74&ItemID=8244

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There have been a great many bodies gathered at Tuzla, some 7,500 or more, many in poor condition or parts only, their collection and handling incompatible with professional forensic standards, their provenance unclear and link to the July 1995 events in Srebrenica unproven and often unlikely, [43] and the manner of their death usually uncertain. Interestingly, although the Serbs were regularly accused of trying to hide bodies, there has never been any suggestion that the Bosnian Muslims, long in charge of the body search, might shift bodies around and otherwise manipulate evidence, despite their substantial record of dissembling. A systematic attempt to use DNA to trace connections to Srebrenica is underway, but entails many problems, apart from that of the integrity of the material studied and process of investigation, and will not resolve the question of differentiating executions from deaths in combat.

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There are also lists of missing, but these lists are badly flawed, with duplications, individuals listed who had died before July 1995, who fled to avoid BSA service, or who registered to vote in 1997, and they include individuals who died in battle or reached safety or were captured and assumed a new existence elsewhere. [44]

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What makes you think I haven't read it? Makes me think you haven't read the reports I linked to.

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Originally posted by Gorgo

Okay. Please speak to me as though you were speaking to a child, because I'm having trouble following.

1)Genocide is not massacring 8,000 males while letting all the women and children go. Please show me how it is and show me how you back that up.

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Among the other idiocies in the Tribunal judges' argument, it was genocide if you killed many males in a group in order to reduce the future population of that group, thereby making it unviable in that area. Of course, you might want to kill them to prevent their killing you in the future, but the court knows Serb psychology better-that couldn't be the sole reason, there must have been a more sinister aim. The Tribunal reasoning holds forth the possibility that with only a little prosecution-friendly judicial psychologizing any case of killing enemy soldiers can be designated genocide.

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2)What exactly are you saying that the Red Cross knows that proves that 8,000 people were "massacred" by the Serbs. Please don't count people who may have died in combat, by suicide, or by the Muslims themselves, or bodies that may have been dragged in from other places by the Muslims. How can you back this up? Where can I read more?

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3) Exactly what group, independent of the Bosnian Muslims and NATO, and other interested parties, has reasonable evidence that 8,000 Muslims were "massacred" by the Serbs? How can you back this up? Where can I read more?

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4) How do you account for the news item on 8/2/95 in the Times, by Kallenbach and Evans, which said that over 2,000 of the 8,000 on the Red Cross list were soldiers that were found, and others? Was this over and above the 8,000 original names?

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Genocide is the attempt to eradicate a certain specific cultural or racial subgroup from the population. Murdering all the males is an effective way to do it, as without males, the population dies. Read your bible, it's not like this strategy has not been attempted before. I find the answer from Herman on this very interesting:

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2)What exactly are you saying that the Red Cross knows that proves that 8,000 people were "massacred" by the Serbs. Please don't count people who may have died in combat, by suicide, or by the Muslims themselves, or bodies that may have been dragged in from other places by the Muslims. How can you back this up? Where can I read more?

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3) Exactly what group, independent of the Bosnian Muslims and NATO, and other interested parties, has reasonable evidence that 8,000 Muslims were "massacred" by the Serbs? How can you back this up? Where can I read more?

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On August 10, 1995, Madeleine Albright showed some satellite photos at a closed session of the Security Council, as part of a denunciation of the Bosnian Serbs, including one photo showing people--allegedly Bosnian Muslims near Srebrenica--assembled in a stadium, and one allegedly taken shortly thereafter showing a nearby field with "disturbed" soil. These photos have never been publicly released, but even if they are genuine they don't prove either executions or burials. Furthermore, although the ICTY speaks of "an organized and comprehensive effort" to hide bodies, and David Rohde claimed a "huge Serb effort to hide bodies," [41] neither Albright nor anyone else has ever shown a satellite photo of people actually being executed, buried, or dug up for reburial, or of trucks conveying thousands of bodies elsewhere. This evidence blank occurred despite Albright's warning the Serbs that "We will be watching," and with satellites at that time making at least eight passes per day and geostationary drones able to hover and take finely detailed pictures in position over Bosnia during the summer of 1995. [42] The mainstream media have found this failure to confirm of no interest.

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