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ergo123
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 Posted - 10/11/2006 : 20:53:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by ergo123
I think they probably do that because it is the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
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You have yet to show this to be true. Why should we believe that?
That's a very astute observation. I'm not asking you to believe it. |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/11/2006 : 20:56:27 [Permalink]
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...one in a trillion...
I love these kinds of statistics.
It's a probability... |
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Dude
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Posted - 10/11/2006 : 22:45:44 [Permalink]
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ergo(liar)123 said:
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the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
Now you are just making shit up.
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tomk80
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Posted - 10/11/2006 : 23:53:44 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by ergo123
I think they probably do that because it is the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
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You have yet to show this to be true. Why should we believe that?
That's a very astute observation. I'm not asking you to believe it.
In other words, you have no evidence and you are talking out of your arse. |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 04:13:04 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Lying Dude
ergo123 said:
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the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
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Now you are just making shit up.
What evidence do you have to back up that claim?
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 04:23:36 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by tomk80
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Originally posted by ergo123
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by ergo123
I think they probably do that because it is the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
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You have yet to show this to be true. Why should we believe that?
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That's a very astute observation. I'm not asking you to believe it.
[quote]In other words, you have no evidence and you are talking out of your arse.
Of course it is true--I'm making a statement about what I'm thinking. The evidence is that I'm the one thinking it--so it's first-hand knowledge. Or is it valid for me to point out you have no evidence for your own thoughts? |
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Dude
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 05:03:39 [Permalink]
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ergo(liar)123 said:
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What evidence do you have to back up that claim?
Your posting history on this forum.
You've been inventing claims and ignoring evidence since your first post in these forums. Your unabated and excessive use of straw-man arguments is available for everyone to see. Your adamant refusal to admit error on your part(you have yet to recant your error of claiming mass and weight to be the same thing), your continued inappropriate use of the phrase "conspiracy theory" in your imbecilic attempt to apply a negative connotation to the official explanation of the WTC collapse, and so on.
And now you drop this:
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the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
Yes, you are just making shit up.
From the few sections of the NIST report that I have read, it is pretty clear that you either didn't read it or didn't understand any of it.
At this point we should be turning our attention to why you persist, in the face of volumes of evidence to the contrary, in claiming that the buildings shouldn't have collapsed when the upper floors started falling into the center of the building.
Do you also believe that the Cubans killed JFK? That Elvis is alive? That aliens abduct people? That the Masons are a satanic cult and secretly in control of the world's major governments along with other "Illuminati"?(go verlch) That the "pharmaceutical industry" runs the FDA? That NASA has a gravity weapon and is using it to try and assassinate the president by causing earthquakes when he visits foreign nations? That a secret race of lizard people rule the human race and keep us enslaved and that G.W. Bush is one of them?
What delusions pass muster for you besides the "WTC controlled demolition" delusion?
Men in Black, New World Order, and Black Helicopters maybe? Because you need something like that to pull of a plot of the magnitude you suggest has occurred. Hundreds, possibly thousands, of people have to be involved, willing to kill innocent people by the thousands, have to be in possession of very specific technical skill sets, and be able to rig several floors of the WTC buildings with a few dozen tons of explosives while making significant and obvious changes to the buildings interior to expose the support columns all without being seen or remembered... and all the conspirators must remain silent. Yeah, it would take one of Will Smith's "flashy things" to get that done.
So what you must be saying is that the MIB is real, and their alien technology is real, and they are the mindless pawns of an evil government.
Because what you are saying just doesn't add up unless you believe in the MIB.
Honestly, you should have shared this "context" with us at the outset. Then we wouldn't have wasted 30ish pages of posts talking to you as if you weren't a psych patient.
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"god :: the last refuge of a man with no answers and no argument." - G. Carlin
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Fripp
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 06:14:48 [Permalink]
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| Wow, Dude. Brilliant and concise assessment of ergo's mental delusions along with a devastating dissection of his argument. I may need to copy and save that last paragraph of yours...I am quite sure that other 911 loons will crawl out of the woodwork. |
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McQ
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 06:24:18 [Permalink]
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Exactly, Fripp. Good job, Dude. And no, ergo, I don't know either one of them.
I knew early on that an honest exchange of ideas and information with this man was fruitless. In his mind he knows more than everyone else and anyone who disagrees with him is not up to his high mental standards. That said, I know that I'm certainly not in his same mental class. I hope most of us aren't.
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 06:53:14 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Lying Dude
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What evidence do you have to back up that claim?
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Your posting history on this forum.
Well that's what you claim, but you offer no evidence.
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And now you drop this:
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the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
Yes, you are just making shit up.
Well that's what you claim, but you offer no evidence.
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From the few sections of the NIST report that I have read...
Ah, well maybe you should read the whole thing...
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Dr. Mabuse
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 07:17:16 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
You have my permission to check with the other site. So I just have to post something in one of the folders you list above?
JREF has answered that their privacy policy does not permit them to diclose or otherwise confirm or deny if ergo123's IP match JREF's truthseeker1234. At least without truthseeker1234's permission.
I suspected as much, but though I could at least try.
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Neurosis
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 08:55:56 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Dude
ergo(liar)123 said:
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the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
Now you are just making shit up.
Now he's making things up!?! |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
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Neurosis
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 09:01:25 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
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Originally posted by tomk80
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Originally posted by ergo123
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by ergo123
I think they probably do that because it is the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
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You have yet to show this to be true. Why should we believe that?
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That's a very astute observation. I'm not asking you to believe it.
[quote]In other words, you have no evidence and you are talking out of your arse.
Of course it is true--I'm making a statement about what I'm thinking. The evidence is that I'm the one thinking it--so it's first-hand knowledge. Or is it valid for me to point out you have no evidence for your own thoughts?
So in your world everything you say is first hand knowledge and therefore has an eyewitness (you) to back up that, in fact, you did say it, and of course, you are never wrong and therefore it must be true.....
If you are making a statement about how you feel without evidence then why should we care how you feel? |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
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[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
- Prof. Frink
Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.] |
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 10:54:09 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by Neurosis
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Originally posted by ergo123
I think they probably do that because it is the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed.
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In other words, you have no evidence and you are talking out of your arse.
Of course it is true--I'm making a statement about what I'm thinking. The evidence is that I'm the one thinking it--so it's first-hand knowledge. Or is it valid for me to point out you have no evidence for your own thoughts?
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So in your world everything you say is first hand knowledge and therefore has an eyewitness (you) to back up that, in fact, you did say it, and of course, you are never wrong and therefore it must be true.....
I was making a statement of opinion (the "I think" part should have been a clue). I am an expert in my own opinion--I am very close to the source of my opinion, being my opinions come from my brain.
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If you are making a statement about how you feel without evidence then why should we care how you feel?
That can be answered by you and you alone... |
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Neurosis
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Posted - 10/12/2006 : 12:36:38 [Permalink]
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Originally posted by ergo123
I was making a statement of opinion (the "I think" part should have been a clue). I am an expert in my own opinion--I am very close to the source of my opinion, being my opinions come from my brain.
No. What you said was : "I think they probably do that (this is the thought part) because it is the collapse itself, and the evidence at the scene after the collapse that doesn't add up with the official story of why they collapsed. (this is the why I think part, where you give evidence to support your thought)"
If I said I think that the Rosie O'Donnell is fat because she weighs nearly 200 lbs. What is after the because is my reasoning. I should have evidence to the fact that she weighs nearly 200.
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If you are making a statement about how you feel without evidence then why should we care how you feel?
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That can be answered by you and you alone...
Here is my answer to the rhetorical quesion: I don't care how you feel. No one here cares how you feel. We want your evidence. Do you accept it when people feel like rubbing wax on their forehead cures their headache? |
Facts! Pssh, you can prove anything even remotely true with facts.
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[God] is an infinite nothing from nowhere with less power over our universe than the secretary of agriculture.
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Lisa: Yes, but wouldn't you rather know the truth than to delude yourself for happiness?
Marge: Well... um.... [goes outside to jump on tampoline with Homer.] |
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