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ergo123
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  18:04:18   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
And you think the official conspiracy theory stands up to the Razor? That's a funny one.

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
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Kil
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  18:13:55   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
And suggesting that the dingle berries who are now running the country could pull off what you suggest is even funnier…

And yes, the Razor. It is you who is adding to the equation an unnecessary component to bring down the buildings…

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  18:29:52   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

And suggesting that the dingle berries who are now running the country could pull off what you suggest is even funnier…

And yes, the Razor. It is you who is adding to the equation an unnecessary component to bring down the buildings…




Have you ever read anything about the Bush family history? The current administration is no bunch of dingle berries. They might act inept, but they are very good at directing and misdirecting the public's attention.

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
Edited by - ergo123 on 10/10/2006 21:21:07
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Kil
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  19:58:41   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
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ergo123:
They might act inept, but they are very good at diescting and misdirecting the public's attention.

Apparently, this particular Bush uses stupidity as misdirection. Very clever indeed…

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  21:22:49   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
ergo123:
They might act inept, but they are very good at directing and misdirecting the public's attention.

Apparently, this particular Bush uses stupidity as misdirection. Very clever indeed…




Stupidity doesn't get you into the white house.

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
Edited by - ergo123 on 10/10/2006 21:23:37
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Kil
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  21:33:04   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
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Stupidity doesn't get you into the white house.

Not stupidity alone. But stupidity with connections might do the job. I understand why you have a need to have him be smarter than he appears to be…


Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  21:52:46   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by Kil

quote:
Stupidity doesn't get you into the white house.

Not stupidity alone. But stupidity with connections might do the job. I understand why you have a need to have him be smarter than he appears to be…





And what is that understanding? I certainly don't think he had much to do with the events of 9-11-01, even in the theory that makes the most sense to me. He is a good political tactician but not a real strategist.

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
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Kil
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Posted - 10/10/2006 :  22:00:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit Kil's Homepage  Send Kil an AOL message  Send Kil a Yahoo! Message Send Kil a Private Message
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ergo123
He is a good political tactician but not a real strategist.

Carl Rove is a good tactician. Bush is really more like Chance the Gardener.

Uncertainty may make you uncomfortable. Certainty makes you ridiculous.

Why not question something for a change?

Genetic Literacy Project
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Master Yoda
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  02:19:54   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Master Yoda a Private Message
Ergo,
I don't truly know that you're TS1234, but I highly suspect it. And I know far too many technically savvy people to think that the IP address being different proves anything. All you need is one or more of the following:
A separate proxy server.
A separate location/PC.
A separate email account.
Good knowledge of how to get around the IP check. I know a guy who's been booted from Loose Change about nine times under nine different names and locations, and he never leaves his own computer, just channels through other proxies.

I prefer to watch and wait. I've sealed some predictions that only myself and Sylvia Browne are aware of. I'll trot 'em out every time you show another indication. And even so, it might be nice if you're not TS1234... It would mean you guys are getting to the bottom of the barrel and are becoming so predictable that you all sound the like the same idjit.
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  02:32:14   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
Whatever turns you on...

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
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tomk80
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  07:02:16   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit tomk80's Homepage Send tomk80 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

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Originally posted by ergo123
yeah, i guess you're right ; there can only be one way to set up a cd in this universe... i suppose it would be impossible to set it up any other way... here you go dave; another one for the closed-mind pile.


Please explain, oh great and open-minded individual to whom we should bow in our ignorance, what is the sense of setting of explosions after the building starts collapsing?

How do you make the building collapse without igniting the explosions first in the first place?



You don't set off all the explosives at the same time. You use some to start the top moving. Then, you use the rest to make sure the whole building collapses, and all the people who might have seen or heard something they shouldn't have, die. What you are left with is called 'shock and awe.'


Man, your fantasy world really knows no bounds, does it?

Tom

`Contrariwise,' continued Tweedledee, `if it was so, it might be; and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't. That's logic.'
-Through the Looking Glass by Lewis Caroll-
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pleco
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  07:13:23   [Permalink]  Show Profile  Visit pleco's Homepage Send pleco a Private Message
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You don't set off all the explosives at the same time. You use some to start the top moving. Then, you use the rest to make sure the whole building collapses, and all the people who might have seen or heard something they shouldn't have, die. What you are left with is called 'shock and awe.'


But if we ask for any evidence to back this up, you refuse. Correct? Just making sure I understand your rules.

by Filthy
The neo-con methane machine will soon be running at full fart.
Edited by - pleco on 10/11/2006 07:14:22
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Starman
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  07:21:57   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send Starman a Private Message
Rules? He don't need no stinking rules.
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  08:25:51   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by pleco

quote:
You don't set off all the explosives at the same time. You use some to start the top moving. Then, you use the rest to make sure the whole building collapses, and all the people who might have seen or heard something they shouldn't have, die. What you are left with is called 'shock and awe.'


But if we ask for any evidence to back this up, you refuse. Correct? Just making sure I understand your rules.



I wish I knew a way to make this clear to all of you. I'm not against providing evidence for the CD conspiracy theory. I just want to see if the official conspiracy theory is on weak-enough ground before I spend time on making a case for the CD conspiracy theory. As I have admitted here, my current belief in the CD theory is based on intuition--a gut feeling. This gut feeling is based largely on my impression that official story doesn't add up.

But if I am satisfied that the official theory has been validated, I'll drop the CD theory as my working theory. If the official theory is not validated to my satisfaction, I'll examine the CD theory (while remaining open to a) new info/support for the official theory and b) new theories that arise).


If, after examining the available info/support on the CD theory, I find it to be sufficiently validated, I will present my case for it. If I find the existing support for the CD theory to be lacking, I will search for a 3rd theory.

Contrary to apparent opinion here, I am not just looking to prove the CD theory based on my intuition. I'm describing my entire search for truth process. It happend to be very methodical--but involves use of my brain; and I listen to the part of my brain that generates intuitive hypotheses. These intuitive hypotheses are not always correct--so I don't just accept what my intuition tells me as Truth. But I also don't just ignore my intuition. Very often my intuition is correct, or leads me to the correct answer after I explore the direction it points me in.

I'm not sure what other words to use to explain my process here. And maybe you really do understand it as I've described it. But if you do, I cannot understand why you constantly bring up the CD theory and my refusal to discuss it at this point in time.

Maybe it's your way of telling me you have no independent support for the official theory. If so, just admit it and we can move on to the CD theory.

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
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ergo123
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Posted - 10/11/2006 :  08:27:40   [Permalink]  Show Profile Send ergo123 a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123

quote:
Originally posted by tomk80

quote:
Originally posted by ergo123
yeah, i guess you're right ; there can only be one way to set up a cd in this universe... i suppose it would be impossible to set it up any other way... here you go dave; another one for the closed-mind pile.


Please explain, oh great and open-minded individual to whom we should bow in our ignorance, what is the sense of setting of explosions after the building starts collapsing?

How do you make the building collapse without igniting the explosions first in the first place?



You don't set off all the explosives at the same time. You use some to start the top moving. Then, you use the rest to make sure the whole building collapses, and all the people who might have seen or heard something they shouldn't have, die. What you are left with is called 'shock and awe.'


Man, your fantasy world really knows no bounds, does it?



What part of my rather simple and admittedly speculative explanation do you find enters the realm of fantasy?

No witty quotes. I think for myself.
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